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Bill Arnett is a software engineer who envies Renaissance and Enlightenment thinkers – people who tried to understand a large fraction of all human knowledge. During an attempt to retire and spend more time on hobbies such as photography and astronomy, Bill decided to learn HTML by creating an astronomy site. It became so popular that it generated enough revenue through Google AdSense to pay for his Roadster. Another recent project was an iPhone application that simulates mechanical watches.
Bill, an outdoor enthusiast, appears to be the first person to drive a Roadster in Yosemite National Park. After a May 14 road trip from his home in Silicon Valley in his Roadster, Signature One Hundred No. 55, Bill described his drive through Yosemite as “just about as good as it gets.” Indeed.
When I first heard about Tesla Motors, one of the major factors guiding my decision to purchase a Roadster was the graphic on the Tesla web site showing that it should be possible to get from my home in the Bay Area to Yosemite National Park. In truth, the route winds through the Sierra Nevada foothills and is far longer than the crow flies, getting quite close to the 244 miles per charge estimate from the US Environmental Protection Agency. But taking my Roadster to Yosemite remained an important goal. Here’s how I did it.
Through the wonders of Google maps, I knew it would be 199 miles from my home in Redwood City to Yosemite Village. I’ve never gone that far on a single charge. This would be uphill highway driving almost the entire outbound trip. And I couldn’t figure out how to get access to a publicly available 240V outlet in the entire park.
My plan was to have a charging base at an RV park in Groveland, 40 miles from the park entrance. But Groveland is 150 miles from my home in Redwood City, just south of San Francisco, and I wasn’t entirely confident of getting even that far. So after discovering through an EV enthusiast site that there’s a convenient and publicly available outlet on the outskirts of the San Francisco Bay Area, I made a short detour to San Ramon. The San Ramon Valley Conference Center at 3301 Crow Canyon Rd. is home to a Tesla 240V/70A charger. It worked perfectly. Thank you!
From San Ramon to Groveland is only 120 miles – easy. It took 40.26 kWh from Redwood City, or 254 Wh/mile, roughly equivalent to a range of 209 miles. Not bad. Groveland is at about 3,000ft, about 1/2 way to the high point of the road into the Valley.
My next recharge spot was Yosemite Pines RV Resort, 20450 Old Highway 120, Groveland CA 95321. I called ahead to make sure it would be OK. They seemed to be a bit puzzled by a crazy-looking guy with a wooly beard and baseball cap in a sports car small enough to fit inside many of the other vehicles parked there. But they let me give it a go. I happily paid them $20 for their trouble, sat in the shade and read my Amazon Kindle while my car ate electrons at 240V/40A. I also walked a few loops around their nature trail for my daily exercise. After one of the loops, I returned to find that the circuit breaker had tripped. Resetting it worked fine but I lost a bit of time. After that I monitored the breaker more closely.
With my charge level was up to 88%, I figured I’d conservatively have enough for at least 150 miles — enough for the 80-mile round trip to the Yosemite Valley and a 50-mile side trip to Glacier Point. That also gave me enough margin of error for comfort – and for spur-of-the-moment changes while poking around the valley.
Groveland into Yosemite Valley was pure joy. By then it was nearly 6pm, still plenty of light but not much traffic. I wasn’t in a hurry and wanted to drive conservatively to conserve energy — but my Roadster seemed eager for more. “This is what this car was born to do,” I thought. Though it was beginning to get cool, I had the top off; driving thru the pines with the evening light and the increasingly scenic landscape and the wonderful Roadster motor purr was magic.
Even driving slowly, I caught up with other cars. Ordinarily that’s a source of considerable aggravation because passing in the foothills can be difficult in an ordinary car. But the Tesla is almost motorcycle-like in its torque and therefore passing ability. You so much as think of accelerating, and the other car is safely behind in your rearview mirror. The passing ability inspires confidence without nervous anticipation – no worries, just effortlessness.
Then I got to the Yosemite Valley – the pristine home of Half Dome, Bridalveil Falls and other delights. It was almost sensory overload: I loved the feel of the steering wheel in my hands and the cool mountain air blowing past. With the gentle purr of the motor instead of the growl of an internal combustion engine, I delighted in the bird songs and waterfalls amid the sequoias and granite cliffs – and I was consuming all these sights without a drop of stinky gasoline. Life doesn’t get much better than this.
I checked in at the famous Ahwahnee Lodge and asked if they could come up with a way to charge the car. They tried. But the best they could do was 120V. That’s still better than nothing; I got about 7kWh overnight. Someone with better people skills should get a Tesla charger installed there. I would be happy to chip in a significant fraction of the cost.
In the morning, I made my loop to Glacier Point. Going up from the Valley, I couldn’t keep the Roadster well behaved any longer. It was begging to strut its Lotus DNA and Tesla power. The electric powertrain is pure joy on a road like that! No shifting, no dancing on the pedals while trying desperately to keep the engine in its powerband.
One of the most amazing things about the Tesla – and you really have to drive the car to fully comprehend this – is the intuitiveness and simplicity of using one foot pedal to control your speed. Thanks to regenerative braking, you can take your foot off the accelerator – all at once or just by backing off a bit — and you slow down accordingly. You think “clear ahead” and the scenery zooms by. You think “corner ahead” and it all slows down. If you were racing on a track, you’d need brakes, of course. But at cruising speed, one-pedal driving is perfect. And, unlike in a gas guzzler, you never need worry about power loss at high altitudes. 
Alas, I had to get home. Another 4 hours at Yosemite Pines RV Resort got me enough juice to make it all the way home without the stop in San Ramon. This time I was more confident in my range calculations. When the traffic started getting ugly around Altamont Pass, the mountain range just east of the San Francisco Bay region, I gave up on the 60-65 mph nonsense and drove the rest of the way home with the normal traffic flow.
The trip out took 54.5 kWh (as reported by the Trip screen); the trip home took 48 (plus 17 for the loop to Glacier Point). So in theory, I could have made it without an intermediate charge if there had been a charger in Yosemite itself. So what do we have to do to get a charger in Yosemite Valley?
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Wow!!
Wow!! Great Pictures!!
Very nice!
Fantastic Tesla-perfect journey!
It is ironic though that this is the kind of “range anxiety” that other companies stress is the biggest problem with BEVs. Rather than let that stop you though you did your homework and made it work! You no doubt will have less and less homework to do as your familiarity with the car’s capabilities increases, and public charging stations increase in number. With the range being as large as it is you didn’t have to find a charging station every 40 miles to stay electric…
Bill, it was great to hear from you again. I particularly enjoy your posts because you combine your driving impressions with spectacular photography. I had the pleasure of riding in a roadster at an automotive expo in southern Germany about a week ago, and I completely concur with your comment on the regenerative braking. The driver didn’t use the brake pedal during the whole (too short) ride.
Anyway, I appreciate your real-world calculations of range and efficiency, that’s important to those of us considering purchasing one of these.
Thanks again for posting, hope to hear from you again soon.
Peter
Beautiful pictures… That combined with your story and detail really makes me want to get some form of electric vehicle (and visit CA!)
Wonderful story, thanks so much for sharing. What a dream, guys!
Now, that was an envy-inspiring post.
I’ll warrant you’ll repeat that trip a few times, with variations!
I love this car! If I could easliy attach a bike support it would be perfect!
Gee, I really envy you, Bill.
I have been to Yosemite a couple of times before.
It would have been even better an experience had I have a Tesla Roadster.
(I went there with a traditional auto with combustion engine…
Well, maybe next time, I wish I can drive a Roadster to get there,
and hopefully there will be a charger in there until then.
Thank you for sharing your photos and story.
Bill: You could have charged almost twice as fast at the place that only had 120V if you had one of these:
www.quick220.com/220_volt.htm
It lets you combine any two, non-GFI, opposite-phase 120V sockets into a split-phase 240V socket of the same current rating.
Also, a simple Y adapter will let you combine any two same-phase 120V sockets on different circuits into a 120V socket of double the current rating of that circuit.
Ev is the future.
Can i rent your tesla pleaseeeeeee.
Your blog post was most excellent! Hopefully soon Ahwahnee will get a charger for those that have a Tesla.
Once Tesla gets the Model S built and out to customers then I believe we will see even more public charging (220V/40+A) stations across America.
Thank you Bill for the excellent pictures!
Many more photos and more text & info at Bill’s homepage version:
bill.nineplanets.org/Tesla/Yosemite1/index.html .
the most amazing thing is that the car was paid for by google ads on a static website
Great article! Thanks for sharing the experience!
SO. You think you could have made the trip from Redwood City to Yosemite on a single charge? I’ll have to do the Google map thing on San Carlos to South Lake Tahoe. There was a post from someone at Tesla saying that trip was not possible on a single charge. I can’t remember if the post is from the Tesla website or was mentioned on another internet site.
I hope fast charge technology progresses quickly. The Model S has mentioned fast charge from 440V!
The future finally looks bright for the electric car.
Wow Bill, what an amazing experience, thank you for sharing. I go to this site at least once a week to see if there’s another posting, and finding one always makes my day!
Reading of your challenges finding “EV filling stations” brings a thought to mind. As electric cars become more prominent, and I figure the Model S will initiate that, it will mean that for each Model S sold, another high amperage charger will exist in someone’s garage. I wonder if websites will spring up where EV owners could offer use of their chargers. You could click on a location along your route, revealing say, E-mail addresses of owners who have offered their charger, make an appointment and negotiate a fee. Very EV community-ish eh?
Here’s anther thought, and this is the most exciting. Think of what it takes to set up a gas station. You need enormous up-front money. You need permits to store and vend volatile fuels. then there’s the excavation for the underground tanks and the building facilities. Just to sell gasoline and diesel!
Now, check this out. You’re a roadside diner, grocery store, souvenir shop. You call an electrician, who comes over to install a 240/480 volt charger with a separate meter ’round back of the store, maybe with a self locking door for safety. You put up a sign that says: “EV’ers welcome!” You are now an EV filling station. How hard is that? In large scale cases, you would have to get a separate 3 phase transformer for say, 6 chargers, yet they could easily be set up to automatically vend and charge a fee according to current rates, plus a small profit, of course. It would still be easier than setting up a gas station!
My home in Redwood City to Yosemite Village is almost exactly 200 miles. I’m reasonably confident that I can make that in one charge but only driving pretty conservatively. A half hour stop at the San Ramon HPC allows for some margin. San Carlos to South Lake is 211 miles according to Google. That’s really pushing it. I think that would be possible only at
What great fun! Seems there wasn’t all that much suffering involved in being a pioneer in this type of adventure
While some may dismiss the trip as impractical, remember that at one point a cross-country automobile trip was a major endeavor involving repairs at blacksmiths shops, and scrounging gasoline from farmers. Just a few short years later, the Lincoln Highway was in place. Congrats and here’s to many more following you.
…only at less than 60 mph.
Great article and yet another case of tremendously beautiful pictures. More of these real life “limited range and how to beat it” stories please.
Jeff:
I’ve seen a number of suggestions with regards EVs, most of which “aren’t right for me”. However, you offer an excellent suggestion which allows a more community oriented energy distribution mechanism:
“…websites will spring up where EV owners could offer use of their chargers. You could click on a location along your route, revealing say, E-mail addresses of owners who have offered their charger, make an appointment and negotiate a fee.”
I could easily see that occurring. It’s the kind of idea that just might light a fire under the butts of the gas station industry with regards getting appropriate facilities in to support EV’s properly. Considering the minimal cost of putting in the electrical facilities compared with a new gas pump, I’ve never bought the line that “it’s too costly”.
“You’re a roadside diner, grocery store, souvenir shop. You call an electrician…”
Wooo, double threat
Perhaps Tesla Motors has advanced enough that change is already occurring within the main automotive industry. I hope that whatever Daimler’s involvement with Tesla is, that it doesn’t end up causing Tesla to regret the relationship.
Thanks Bill… great story and great pics. what an amazing car with such awesome performance.
I’m an Australian and growing up, my Dad worked for nearly a decade in San Francisco and i had the opportunity to visit him many times. On one visit he asked me if i’d like to go to Disneyland or Yosemite… as a 13y/o of course i chose Disney! -mind you i’d already been there before!
Now, as a grown man, i regret the chance to experience the worlds first national park.
These days i live within 30 minutes drive from the Daintree National Park (near Port Douglas) in the state of Queensland, Aust.
It’s the oldest rainforest on the planet - about 50 million years older than the Amazon. How amazing it would be to drive around here without the sound of the oil burning engine dulling the sounds of the forest.
I would love to be able to get a Right-hand side drive version of this car here… we’re luck here because our standard power outlets are all 240volts.
cheers again mate
Roger S.,
I laughed hysterically when I learned that Bob Lutz, who had just killed the EV1 program, initiated the GM Volt program upon hearing news of some Silicon Valley geeks working on a contraption called a “Tesla Roadster”. Mr. Lutz, sharpest knife in the drawer. Not.
Tesla Motors has advanced the EV industry by dragging the main automotive industry back into it kicking and screaming.
Should the Volt actually appear in the showroom, I’m certain it will exceed GM’s limited vision of its impact. I see the EV grin spreading faster than the bovine flu. Owners will find themselves giddy with joy after driving the car one, two, even three months without visiting the gas station. I could even see a Volt license plate reading “MT TNK”. From our own experience, we have a minivan that we drive the wheels off of, and a secondary car I drive to and from work, and I never drive it more than 50 miles a day.
Volt drivers will discover something that EV’rs have already learned. Going to the gas station is a pain in the backside! Then they will be asking, “Why are we driving a car with two engines?” Tesla Motors will respond with, “Why are you driving a car with two engines?”
There are some very exciting technologies emerging in power storage. One is a cell invented in a Stanford University laboratory, called the lithium silicon nanowire. It has ten times the energy density of the lithium ion battery. Imagine a Tesla Roadster with a range of 2,000(two thousand ) miles, the Model S with a range of 3,000(no typo) miles.
Then there’s the ESU from a very secretive company out of Austin Texas, called EEstor, run by a group of former Hewlett Packard Engineers. It cannot even be regarded as a battery, because it’s actually an ultra-capacitor. Capacitors store energy by simply holding an electrostatic charge, they do not change chemical state like a battery does, and as a result, they can store energy much like filling a container, and can do so almost instantaneously. They can also experience millions of charge cycles throughout their lifetime. The EEstor ESU has five times the energy density of the lithium ion battery, and can be charged in five minutes. Can you say EV filling station?
By the time the Model S and the Volt hit street, these technologies will be off the drawing board. EEstor has already made an exclusive deal with Zenn motorcar out of Canada, another idea spawned in America, then outsourced.
Tesla’s collaboration with Daimler could aid them, I hope, in employing technologies like these, although I definitely share your concern about Tesla’s opening of their hand to them. Unlike the Bob Lutz’s, Daimler Benz appears to consist of brilliant people with progressive ideas. Let’s hope they practice honesty, fairness and respect for Tesla’s courage. Wow, that’s a tall order, isn’t it?
Oops, I meant “swine flu”! The EV grin will spread like a virus. Yeah, that’s the ticket!
Your blog post was most excellent! Hopefully soon Ahwahnee will get a charger for those that have a Tesla.
Maybe this question has an obvious answer — but has Tesla thought about providing charging infrastructure ‘kits’ for those who want to provide a fee-charge point? I may not be able to afford a Roadster or Model S at present, but I’d like to think I could help other EVers traveling thru downstate Illinois…
i hope that Jeff S is correct in his info above about the battery technology. I have a windmill escort company and i would like to have a couple of model S to run escort with, but i would require a range of at least 1000 miles, and take into account that my lights and radios draw a constant 45 amps on a 12 volt system, so that would mean with out equipment the range should be near 2000 miles per charge. If they put those other battery technologies to work and have the range that Jeff is claiming possible (Tesla Roadster with a range of 2,000(two thousand ) miles, the Model S with a range of 3,000(no typo) miles.)*coppied from his coment above. I would be the first to have a fleet of them for my company. Just think, Wind power generators being escorted by 100% electric fleet.
Bringing EV to the forefront of alternative energy transport. Great advertizing for Tesla as well. I would have written on the side of all 6 orange model S’s under my buisness name and contact info in big bold white outlined black letters,
100% ELECTRIC VEHICLE
BETTER RANGE THAN YOUR CAR
YOUR ONE TANK -VS- MY ONE CHARGE
CHEEPER TO OWN AND OPERATE
TESLAMOTORS.COM
That would be an awesome sight.
I have to admit that the roadster would look great with a police light bar and signs on ti as well, but i couldn’t afford to buy 6 roadsters, but one for myself in the fleet would be great. Can any one calculate how much $ i would save on 6 Teslas vs the 6 I have now, getting 16 mpg at 50,000 to 110,000 miles a year each, and how much 6 charging stations would cost to install?
The Tesla all-electric car is very impressive. Hope I can purchase one in the near future. Can not understand why our own government, who is talking about alternative energy, does not promote a lot of monetary funds toward Tesla Motors and others alike, at the same time giving away billions to GM and others. Stupid!
Would like to see someone invent a self-charging or re-generating electric motor. A person could drive infinite miles never having to plug into an outlet. Maybe change out the battery pack every 5 years. Looking forward to visiting the Seattle showroom soon. Tesla Motors, keep up the excellent job!
I would like to see a partnership between Tesla and Angel Labs (MYT).
Bill, Bravo! I guess you only accomplish something worthwhile when out of a comfort zone, however one defines it. I drive a Toyota Prius mostly in a densely populated Phila suburbs (though taken it couple times all the way up and down the East Cost) and fuel calculations have never actually entered my mind but if you think about it, planning a 200-mile trip is nothing new. Indeed, our grandfathers had to do that all the time. I don’t want to say that I am willing to plan every car trip I take, but going on a longer trip like you did would surely provide not only pleasant memory of the scenery but also a feeling of accomplishment as a well-executed expedition would. In addition, I bet the people you met now at least have an idea that installing an EV charger may bring some extra business and who knows, maybe you have inspired one or two locations you’ve charged at to install one.
As a side note, paraphrasing what Robin Miller said in a comment above: does anyone know at least specs (though a self-contained kit as Robin had asked would be even nicer) for a Tesla charger? Is EV industry developing their own standard for the charger, much in a way oil industry has the fueling hardware standardized? What I’m thinking about is a sort of grassroots charging infrastructure that could be used by EV drivers for longer trips like the one Bill took. Any links or pointers would be greatly appreciated.
Manuel;
Something is wrong in your calculations.
45amps at 12 Volt is only 540W. At 60mph Roadster uses 250Wh / mile which is 15kW constant load at that speed. Your equipment decreases range only by 3.6% not 50%. If Roadster can get 220 miles / one charge at that speed (which already includes quite a bit ancillary load) that 3,6% would be about 8 miles. Not much.
Manuel, those high performance batteries are still under development, and it will be several years before they appear on the market, and it is not yet known what the price will be. The Roadster is using a battery pack that gives it about 244 miles per charge, depending on driving habits, and the planned Model S, using currently available batteries, could get 160 to 300 miles, depending on the battery size chosen. Of course, if those high performance batteries become available sooner than expected, that could change.
I don’t know the price of gas where you are, but 50,000 to 110,000 miles at 16 mpg is 3,125 to 6,875 gallons. At $3 per gallon (close to the price here) that is $9,375 to $20,625! You definitely need somthing with better fuel economy! I don’t know what your local electric rates are, either, but the Roadster takes about 60 Kwh per 230 miles driven, which comes to 13,043 to 28,696 Kwh per year. At a rate of 11 cents per Kwh, that comes to $1,434.73 to $3,156.56 - a substantial savings.
I totally agree with you
Derrall M., no one has ever made a working “self-charging or re-generating” electric motor, and considering the way the universe works, it is highly unlikely anyone ever could.
There have been plenty of scammers and con artists that have pretended to achieve such things, often using elaborate deceptions, but their devices never work the way they claim. For that reason, you should be extremely suspicious of anyone with a claim of perpetual energy production.
That’s great! Now if we can get some of those stimulus money to put in more charge stations across this great nation then we can all enjoy the fine ride.
I like these cars a lot, I hope you can someday make something affordable for people, not just luxury cars. It’s understandable to have a lot of R&D costs and wanting them back, but you’d make trillions if you manage to make it to the normal market. Just hoping to buy one of your cars, but won’t happen before 30k - rebate.
Good luck.
I just learned of this car today. And the Model S coming out as well. I would love to own one of these but unfortunatly at the time I know I can’t afford that cost thats for sure. But I will have to say once I get the chance I plan on getting one!
Bill
For your charger please got to: electricauto.org/eaaboard.html and find Tom Dowling “Infrastructure Manager” click the link and send him an email. I think you will be pleasently surprised.
Manuel;
I like the idea of your travelling billboard. But it would be more impressive if you spelled “CHEAPER” right. The other way of spelling it might refer to a bird.
As CM shows you, you’d save about $10,000/car per year. Not tea bags!
I love this idea of EVs. Problem is I live in the great white north, it is halibut cold here for several months of the year. You don’t want to drive far with no heat when it is -30 deg. How do these electric cars handle heating the passenger compartment? Seems electric heat would bring the range down from 300 miles to 30 miles. (just guessing, didn’t do any math there). Add to the drain of an impractical electric heater, the fact that the batteries are not very efficient at those low temps and I can’t see these cars being anything but summer vehicles. Hoping someone smarter than me has that figured out…… of course the easy solution would be to move somewhere warmer…… if I do that, I will be doing it on a free energy vehicle, a sailboat !
CM; you mentioned that those x10 energy density batteries are still in development and not available for several years. That is true, but I just have to mention that about 4-5 times Roadster battery pack densities are ready almost *now*, based on what I’m reading from science papers. All development work for lithium-ion batteries are made using chemistries that allow 400-700Wh/kg densities, and lower figures are not even worth mention unless they have something other extremes (like that 175kW/kg power density using 60mA/g or around 180Wh/kg batteries).
Roadster battery pack weights about 450kg and gives about 54kWh energy, that is 120Wh/kg density. Even if we drop out casing weight it still is less than 150Wh/kg. With same size battery pack 500Wh/kg would be 225kWh or four times the range which is in practice 220 * 4 = 880 miles. More than enough to make ICE permanently obsolete. I believe breakpoint range for that is 600 miles with reasonable price.
Peter; range is not an issue even in very cold climates. Heater does reduce range but nowhere as much as you think. Car cabine space is relatively small, so well-insulated hardtop car like model S doesn’t need to use much energy to heat it up in tolerable temperatures, you lose maybe 5-10% of max range. There are also seat heaters that use less energy, so with decent cold weather clothing that might be enough.
However.
-30C temperature is too much for Tesla current batteries to work at all. You would need to keep your car in heated garage, or keep car battery “AC system” (yes, there is separate environment control for battery) running all of time, which does use battery power even when car is not moving, which in turn requires recharging so that you don’t end up with dead battery after longish roadtrip and day at the office. Of course charger doesn’t need to be very powerful for this to work out, so you can use connector meant for block heater for this to work.
Actually CM (who wrote on June 19th, 2009 at 11:30 pm) several different inventors have produced self-powering motor generators, Nikola Tesla, Gabriel Kron, Edwin Gray, and John Bedini just to name a few. And just so we don’t have to argue back and forth; here is the U.S. patent no. 6,545,400 for a self-running motor-generator. The builders group I am a part of tops out at over 2,000 builders, so we know this one works.
There is no “Thermodynamic Law of Equal Work”. Only what Einstein said “Energy cannot be created nor destroyed, it can only change it’s form”.
Therefore, once a hydroelectric dam is built, the energy comes to us for FREE, perpetually until the end of time. The water in the reservoir shoots out the bottom and performs the work required to spin the turbines and generate the electricity. We use the kinetic energy of the water flow and transform it into rotating mechanical energy and as a byproduct of our clever engineering design, we get electricity at the end.
So yes, perpetual energy transformation is perfectly possible and is in use all over the planet today. The hydroelectric dam is also an overunity device that produces a lot more energy output than it takes us humans to turn the cranks of the turbines (energy input).
Does anyone know if anyone in the Hawaiian islands own a Tesla Roadster? Or where I can find a list of Tesl Roadsters that have been bought or shipped?
Peter, the Roadster has a 3Kw electric cabin heater. The battery pack has enough power to run that heater for 17 hours nonstop - but it doesn’t have to, as it quickly warms the cabin and shuts off. So, unless you do something really silly like drive around with the top down and the heater on full blast, it isn’t going to be on that much and doesn’t use very much power. Even in very cold weather you would loose less than 5 miles of range for each hour in the car, not much when starting out with 244 miles worth of charge! If that is too much, then use the electric seat heaters instead, they only draw 65 watts!
Timo, thanks for the info. It looks like the next few years are going to be really exciting, with big changes coming.
The Future is Electric.
I am just curious about how now that the country is finally getting some real options to get away from the internal combustion engine and its high cost of gasoline, the government (GM) is now pushing through cap and trade which will greatly increase the cost of electricy. I cannot believe these two are not related and somehow most likely formulated to hold back the real solution and continue to saddle us for years with the ICE by simply making the electric car too expensive.
I’ve known about Tesla for quite a while so when there was an event to actually SEE and ride in one here in Northern Virgina I jumped on it! What a GREAT car! Once the sedan is released, I’m hoping to have one with my name on it! By then, I believe there will be a dealer established in Washington DC.
JAson; hydroelectric dam is not free energy, it draws its energy from worlds biggest fusion reactor called “the Sun” and Earths gravitation. There is no free energy and no perfect conversion between energies. Perpetual motion machines are simply impossibility, energy to run them has to come from something. Sometimes source of that energy is not obvious but there is always a source. As far as I know Tesla never made perpetual motion machine, or never claimed that one is possible.
JAson: A hydroelectric dam is powered by water flowing downhill, if it runs out of water it stops producing power. Water doesn’t flow uphill, but fortunately the weather system, powered by the sun, pumps water from the oceans to the mountains to refill the reservoirs. So, hydroelectric dams aren’t “self powered”.
While Nikola Tesla invented many things, including transformers and motors and even a wireless power transmission method, he never made any “self powered motors”. The others that have made such claims are either delusional or are running elaborate scams. As for the 2,000 builders of “self-running motor generators”, how many actually work as claimed, and how many still need “some work”? I’ll go out on a limb and guess that, in spite of months of tinkering, none of them are actually fully functional.
A brief search turned up Patent no. 6,545,400, issued April 8, 2003 to Yoshida and Haruhiko, it involves an improved color cathode ray tube. Nope, nothing on motors or generators or “self running” anything. Either you got the patent number wrong, or somebody lied. Considering the number of “over-unity” scams that have been run, I’d say somebody was pulling a fast one, and hoped nobody would check.
e=mc^2 … all you need to know about perpetual energy
John Bedini Monopole Mechanical Oscillator Energizer with Simplified School Girl Circuit Radiant Energy charging US Patent 6,545,555 protected.
It’s been on tv, radio and newspapers.
John Bedini is a famous audio acoustics engineer with many successful patents bearing his name, he also worked with the U.S. Army Signals Group in the high-frequency counter-espionage outfit. His audio amplifiers are legendary.
John Bedini is also believed to be the only person in the public spotlight who has replicated all of Tesla’s experiments including the much famous one’s involving ‘radiant energy’ which is a term Tesla coined and is referred to today by many foundation scientists as simply “energy from the vacuum”.
John Bedini is featured in nearly half-a-dozen documentaries regarding his 25+ year career in high-frequency wavelength engineering.
John Bedini started the very popular BEDINI MONOPOLE BUILDER GROUPS at Yahoo.com. These are public groups that any competent debunker can find, join, and build a monopole motor.
I personally am a member of the beginners group which has over 2,300 registered members. There are 3 additional, higher-level groups that can be joined after you’ve demonstrated that you learned the basics in the beginners group (that means demonstrating a working Monopole motor-generator with calculated results following the established protocols).
So, just because a couple of ninnies are saying otherwise doesn’t change the fact that John Bedini’s work is amazing, real, and publicly available.
As for TIMO & CM, A good debater could research everything I said previously in about 1/2 hour and yet all you guys wanna say is “NO”.
CM - I think I’ve answered your question about John Bedini, he is real and he has real Tesla Motor car OWNERS calling him and asking him to build a specific RADIANT ENERGY battery charger for their new car - - based on Tesla’s best research. You can’t make this kind of stuff up and Tesla Motors knows it. Ever heard of Renaissance Charge LLC?
Instead of double-talking all around my words, perhaps either of you could describe for us all where the energy source comes from that is dragging the Earth through dead space at around 14,000 miles per hour, and rotating around the sun, while our whole system spins in the shape of a spiral galaxy. Do you know how long we have left before the Earth stops spinning because of a lack of energy? Do you have a gauge for how much longer the natural cycle of water, clouds, and evaporation is going to last?
Of course you don’t, WE ALL expect these things to last forever because the energetic scale they operate on is beyond most people’s comprehension (and for good reason, we’re tiny tiny tiny compared to the rest of the operating universe). So don’t act stupid and say “oh, well, a dam won’t work if water doesn’t flow through it” that is basic, of course it won’t. Luckily all of the world’s dams are built in places where water has been flowing for about a million years, give or take. The negative replies were lazy and I feel, deceptively contrived.
I always find it interesting to run across truth-adverse folks, they always act all-knowing and spout a bunch puffy facts, knowing full well that most readers won’t ever back-check my statements.
Are you going to?
JAson: Another search turned up US Patent 6,545,555 - Voltage controlled oscillator having a phase noise reduction device. Inventors Scott Justice and Erik Bengtsson. Nope, nothing about “monopoles” or “mechanical” or “simplified school girl radiant energy charging” or “John Bedini”, the only thing you got right was the “oscillator” part. You might instead try patent #6545444 or #7109671 or #6392370, those seem to be the only relevant entries out of 8 patents assigned to John Bedini. You got it wrong again, and you think I’m “truth adverse”?
Reviewing the 3 patents, Bedini has designed an odd and not particularly efficient “generator” to recharge batteries. It isn’t really “self-powered”, it relys on mechanical energy or another source of electric power. If you want to waste your time on it, go ahead, but I’m not going to.
I hadn’t heard of “Renaissance Charge LLC”, turns out they make lead acid battery chargers, powered by a regular AC power plug. Not “self powered” at all, but useful for lead acid battery users. Tesla Motors is using the Reductive charging system developed by AC Propulsion, and is using LiIon batteries, so they don’t need that company’s products.
The “energy source” that moves the earth is called “Intertia”, that property of things in motion to remain in motion. Gravity is the force that curves the earth’s path into an elliptical orbit, and holds galaxies together. Neither gravity nor inertia are “energy” but those fields are useful ways of storing, transferring and converting kinetic/potential energy. There is considerable kinetic and potential energy stored in the solar system, and while some slowly leaks out due to tidal effects, the total energy stored is so huge and the tidal effects so comparatively small that it will take several hundred billion years to dissapate.
If there is a list of places currently available for owners to charge their cars, I would like to be on it.
I have 240 in my garage 40 miles north of San Francisco. Any owner contemplating a trip to, or passing through, Sonoma County CA is wecome to charge his car at my house. I’m 3 minutes from hwy 101. One mile from downtown Petaluma which has many good restaurants, interesting shops, and lots of beautiful Victorians and early 19th Century architecture. I can give you a ride if you don’t want to walk.
You can rest in a guest room or hang out in my living room. I also have wireless internet to pass the time.
My son is an engineer at Tesla Motors. This is something I can do now to encourage EV travel. In the future I hope to own the model after the S.