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Model S Pricing Reactions

Model S Pricing is finally here!

Anyone else getting sticker shock?

I'm most hurt by the $3,500 add for 21" wheels and $3750 for "tech package". Really you couldn't include turn-by-turn navigation in the basic model? I don't care about the hard drive, or liftgate, or automatic entry, so I'm going to have to pay nearly 4 large for turn-by-turn navigation?

Ouch Tesla.

@Maestrokneer - We are discussing this in the "Options pricing is up" thread.

http://www.teslamotors.com/forum/forums/option-pricing

When actually compared to cars in its class (i.e., a BMW 5 Series), Model S pricing options are competitive.

the pricing is fine, but why do you need to get a pano roof in order to get a satellite radio??

@Mel, more than likely it is for the antenna. But it seems weird to me as well. The wording is strange and it seems to imply you must get the pano roof to get Sat radio.

@discoducky, one last question. I really wanted the white interior. Do you think they did away with that for a dull gra

Disco ducky, sorry for the question on white. I found it under sig.. You must be right on the antenna

How do you get at the sig? I see no links or banners or buttons or ...

I notice that the Design Studio hasn't been updated to accommodate the packages yet.

brian h...under options and pricing , a red banner on the far right. click on that

I don't feel too bad about it. In fact, I was expecting worse. $3500 for the 21" does sound way overpriced, but I don't want them anyways (because I don't want performance tires).

The tech packge is expensive imo, but I want it, so I'm getting it. I am also annoyed by the fact that the uplevel sound system is seperate from the tech package.

Here's is what I feel I have to have from the tech package:
Xenon headlamps
LED foglights
auto-dimming mirrors

I don't really want the nav, but I guess other people would think it is wierd if I have such a fancy car with a fancy computer and no nav. If the nav includes lifetime service, I'll certainly feel better about it.

These are things that are nice to have, but I wouldn't pay for them:
backup camera
power liftgate

And come to think of it, I don't even want automatic keyless entry at all. I'm assuming the standard is still keyless, but you just have to actually push a button. I would reather push a button always.

Yes, I get there is a 'wow' factor with the proximity sensing, and it could be helpful if you are carrying a bunch of stuff, but honestly, I don't want my car to unlock just because I am near it.

Can someone post a link to the sig pricing. You can't get to it on an iphone

Thomas, try this link for part of the pricing table
http://www.teslamotors.com/tesla_theme/images/models/options_content-4-t...

@michiganmodels

That thread wasn't up yet when I started this one. We were typing simultaneously.

Too bad the discussion started there first. This thread is more aptly named.

Oh well, discussion nonetheless. I'll throw in my $0.02 over there. Cheers,

I with you on some of the shockers. I agree with some of the comments on this thread and the other. I did not expect to see the surcharge for navigation, leather and paint. Completely nickel and dime'n people. I'm sure they are rolling up costs and they are coming in higher than expected- what program doesn't. But trying to say they compete with a 5 series and have all these add-ons is not competing with a 5 series. I am rethinking this reservation but can't blame tesla, they never committed to a price till now. Wife and I are heading out to drive a 5 series in the next couple weeks, we will see from there.
I'm still bent out of shape for not getting the factory tour email even though I am an early reservation holder but I guess tesla found a glitch in their system when you change your email.

We missed the factory invite via e-mail as well, and had never changed our e-mail address. It was more likely human error. It happens.

The pricing is more than fair, it is consistent with what Tesla Motors has been saying from the beginning and I hope to load my Model S full of extras I just hope that the stock price gets a nice bump to offset the price of some of the options. Go TSLA, and by the way a huge THANKS to Elon Musk we could not have done this without your passion!!!

I'm most hurt by the size of the Signature premium, where if you dislike even one of the "free" options, it starts being a premium of over $7000.

I have no use for the 21" wheels. I wonder if I could get them and trade wheels with a non-Sig buyer who does want them, at a profit. Tesla should not make that possible, because that's stupid. It's all very well with options which are hard to pull out and put in, but with wheels, they really can be swapped....

My wife had performance tires that were only rated for 10,000 miles. I will make my decision on the rating which has not been disclosed yet.

mcornwall;
that link works, thx. But, oddly, it's an image, not a text-based page. I had to turn off 'text-only zoom' to bring it up to readable size!

And that's the trick, I guess. I had to allow image zooming for that "red vertical banner" to show up after zooming out. If I zoom in to bring the text up to normal size, or turn on text-only zooming, it's invisible/not displayed.

The pricing seems inline with other luxury brands. The big mistake, IMHO, is satellite radio not available without panoramic roof. One thing I want is satellite radio, the one thing I don't want is the panoramic roof! This is a deal breaker for me, so I hope it changes. Technologically, there should be no problem, my lowly Golf TDI has Sirius and no sunroof.

With the high price of the sig, they really should have included the glass roof as standard!

Speaking as a Sig reserve who will be getting the pano roof (and thus somewhat objective on these two topics)...

"The big mistake, IMHO, is satellite radio not available without panoramic roof."

I suspect this is a wording issue and I hope they offer a satellite-without-pano combination.

"With the high price of the sig, they really should have included the glass roof as standard!"

I'm assuming they would have grown the base Sig price to accommodate this OR trimmed some other "standard on Sig" items. Given those alternatives, I think they made the right call on making the Pano optional.

I think the pricing options are in line with other luxury brands like BMW, AUdi and Mercedes. The biggest disappointment for me is the unvailability of supercharging on the 160 mile (40kwh) version. I do not want to pay an additional $10K or $20K to get that option. Although the option choices are not perfect, I think they did a pretty good job of grouping. It does seem strange that that 16GB of storage is in both the audio upgrade and tech package.

also does the mobile connectivity mean internet access or bluetooth?

Why is there a performance difference between battery pack size and 0 to 60 times? My assumption was that the 40kWh Sedan would have a time approximating the advertised time of 5.6 seconds. To see that it is now stated to be 6.5 seconds gives me pause.
Additionally, why would a 85kWh battery pack go from 5.6 seconds to 4.4 seconds depending on the purchase of the Performance Sedan package or the Straight Sedan package (300 miles)? Is it a larger electric motor or is the motor standard across the board and then de-rated to force buyers looking for performance into the more expensive Sedans?
We truly want to buy this car and are willing to take the hit on range (40kWh package) to get into an electric vehicle. However, we're bothered by the fact that the performance is significantly reduced from the initial advertised 0 to 60 times for no obvious answer.
Thank you for your time,
NR

their simplified explanation for it is "As energy storage capacity increases, so does the total power. This results in quicker acceleration."

from http://www.teslamotors.com/models/facts

I completely agree. I am thrown back with this new data. I planned on getting the 160 mile range but its hard to see the 0-60 performance drop by a whole 1 sec. I called Tesla, and they said that a larger battery pack allow more power draw. But that doesnt make much sense. I would think that you can still draw the same power but for shorter periods with the 160mi pack. This makes me reconsider the car.

"Why is there a performance difference between battery pack size and 0 to 60 times? My assumption was that the 40kWh Sedan would have a time approximating the advertised time of 5.6 seconds. To see that it is now stated to be 6.5 seconds gives me pause.
Additionally, why would a 85kWh battery pack go from 5.6 seconds to 4.4 seconds depending on the purchase of the Performance Sedan package or the Straight Sedan package (300 miles)? Is it a larger electric motor or is the motor standard across the board and then de-rated to force buyers looking for performance into the more expensive Sedans?
We truly want to buy this car and are willing to take the hit on range (40kWh package) to get into an electric vehicle. However, we're bothered by the fact that the performance is significantly reduced from the initial advertised 0 to 60 times for no obvious answer.
Thank you for your time,
NR"

So I am set:
Switched back from sig 587 to production-she told me they will place me at a good spot in the line, not at the back (I was about 2300 before I upgraded)
I'm going with green sport version with tan interior. No pano roof- I have changed my mind
I think I will get the upgraded sound system and the aero 19" all season tires as I live in Chicago
I do not need any other options. She also stated the interior is being redesigned and is due soon. She stated many people are going up from production to sig.
Also they will hold on to my 40k!

Now the wait.....

From Tesla: "To qualify for the US Federal Tax Credit, the new vehicle must be purchased by the taxpayer,andnot purchased for resale. The credit is applied when the taxpayer completes their annual tax forms. Qualification is contingent on Adjusted Gross Income".

What are the income parameters?

Stevewen1

"I completely agree. I am thrown back with this new data. I planned on getting the 160 mile range but its hard to see the 0-60 performance drop by a whole 1 sec. I called Tesla, and they said that a larger battery pack allow more power draw. But that doesnt make much sense. I would think that you can still draw the same power but for shorter periods with the 160mi pack. This makes me reconsider the car."

Thanks for calling Tesla. Their explanation confuses me too since the "Performance" Sedan S has the same 85kWh battery pack as does the 300 mile, non-performance Sedan yet there is a full second difference in 0 to 60 times (5.6 vs. 4.4). Same battery pack size but a much larger power draw to accommodate the significantly faster 0 to 60 times.

Still confused...

@Andrew18
"She also stated the interior is being redesigned and is due soon."

The first we've heard unofficially, the second is news!

Still doesn't explain why. I would like to know if the limitation is by the battery pack, and if they offer a battery upgrade in the future, will you get the better performance. For those of us with lmited budget, it would be nice to know if there is an upgrade path in the future.


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