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Squeeeeeky Brakes

I've had really squeaky brakes from day one but the service center says that's normal because we don't use brakes that much. Not really buying the reason and hate the fact that a brand new 100k car sounds like a 10 year old Kia at a stop sign. Anyone else having issues?

Breaks squeak as well, but I am fairly confident that it is because the breaks are not used that often and rust builds up.

Did you get a bad break on your brakes? Squeal to Tesla.

I don't think my brakes whinned at all today. I did some spirited driving the other day with hard braking. I wonder if they will start again after a few days of regen stopping.
It has started to warm up a little too (60-70) and it's not real dry out.
I only have 1500 miles on my car.

4500+ miles, still a lillte squeak just before the complete stop, same thing, was told by Tesla this is normal and my autoshop owner friend also said it is normal id we don't use the brakes much. the way they "fix" this is to do a couple of hard braking, I think the hard part is the key, it has to be more like an emergency stop and most of us never do it hard enough to wear off whatever coating is on the rotor.

One thing I noticed is, if I never use the brakes, they will start to squeal. If I use them a lot, the squealing noise starts to fade and goes away. It is annoying though. I had a car that every morning when I backed out of the garage the brakes squealed. It drove me so nuts I traded the car in after 3 months because the dealer said it was normal and couldn't fix it. I think its the materials of the parts that are used. It seems somewhere Tesla used cheaper materials to cut costs. Ive owned 8 vehicles and only one squealed, well now two.

Yup, I had the same problem with the last car I owned that had Brembo breaks.

pauljones,

Brembo are not cheap, and are actually more expensive than what is on 99% of most all other cars. In fact, they are the same quality breaks that are used on all exotic race cars. Unfortunately, they are designed to stop on a dime, not sound nice, and when you typically see a car pull up with Brembo breaks on it, the performance engine is usually is FAR louder than the break squeal.

I'm not saying the brakes themselves are cheap. I just meant maybe cheap pads or a different kind of material is used to cause the squealing. I have nissan 350z with factory brembos and they have never made a squeal yet. I think it's generally the pads and the rotors that attribute to the noise or the pads moving against the calipers.

pauljones,

Actually I think it's the other way around, the better the pad, the louder the squeel.

I had a 350Z also, and it didn't stop anywhere near what the Tesla can do. If anything, Nissan put much cheaper break-pands on the 350Z.

I also use to own a 1994 300ZXtt (upgraded w/ 400 HP), and I upgarded the front breaks on it to Brembo high-performance racing breaks (with cross-drilled vented roaders and high-performance racing pads). The same type of breaks that are on most exotics. Trust me, they could stop on a dime, but squeeled like no tomorrow.

60 MPH to a full stop...

-2008 Nissan 350Z = 112 ft.
-2012 Tesla Model S P85 = 105 ft.

brakes

squeal

squeak

creak

I've had the car six weeks and still squeaks every time I come to a complete stop. The service center has looked at it twice already. They suggested the hard braking and then switching off the regen braking which I have done to no avail. They also applied some material to the pads that they thought would fix but the noise only stopped for a few hours. Going to take it back to service center for a third time as paying six figures for a car that squeaks every time I stop is not very pleasant.

@Brian H - You've been in a mood lately! What gives?

Like many others have said, I also get regular squeaking just at the very end of braking when my P85 comes to a complete stop. I was advised to try hard breaking several times, but this did not help. I am going to bring the car in for service April 27. Hopefully they will have a fix by then.

My brakes make a noise under conditions similar to DarrellH's description. Only at the very end of a complete stop.

I'll apply anti-squeal compound to the back surface of the pads either this weekend or next. That's always stopped this type of noise in the past for me.

@TikiMan:"60 MPH to a full stop...

-2008 Nissan 350Z = 112 ft.
-2012 Tesla Model S P85 = 105 ft."

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I think I'd rather stop a few feet longer in emergency situations, which are extremely rare since I'm a very careful driver, rather than having my brakes squeal every single time I come to a full stop, no matter what. But that's just me.

2000 miles , slight squeaking

Still squeaking after 6k miles. However, a couple of nights ago a beautiful family of five Raccoons decided to use the light of my headlights to cross the road. Because of those incredibly big brakes, they're all still alive today.

I've had my P85 for 4 weeks and after washing it for the first time I've noticed the squeaking is pretty loud and frequent. It's good to read I'm not the only one but I'd love a way to eliminate it. The car is so quiet and nice in a million ways that this really stands out as a big annoyance especially given the price tag!

Around 3k miles; no squeaks except immediately after a car wash, then gone after first brake application.

Amazingly ten minutes after posting my comment, someone from the Tesla Ownership Experience program called me to talk about the squeaky brakes. He confirmed that the best way to deal with them is to hard brake a few times when driving about 5mph. Will try it and see but so great to see Tesla listening and responding to try to help out.

Brakes what brakes ? Most all of my stops are regeneration! Only apply brakes at full stop not much squeaking on my car!

Same exact experience here. Took into Tesla service Seattle and they acted surprised like they were not aware of the squeaking brake issue. When the car was returned the problem was exactly unchanged. They told me to give it a few more months to "brake them in" . Now four months later still no difference in volume or frequency.

I called last week and service told me, "we did everything we could do… sorry". I can't believe that my 100K car turns heads at a crosswalk not because of how cool it is, but because it sounds like a clunker. Very embarrassing!

@ gshriber,

You received bad information from your service center. There is a service bulletin to replace the rotors in order to address the squeaking. It is a harmonic issue, so changing the mass of the rotors is required to change the resonating frequency. My service center immediately replaced the rotors on my P85 w/ 19" wheels without hesitation at my mention of squeaking brakes.

I suggest you call them back and speak with the service manager. Even though the service bulletin may only apply to the 21" wheels, the service center has discretion to apply the fix to 19" wheels. That is what they did for me and it solved the problem immediately.

We "break" in "brakes"

I also had all four rotors replaced under the guise of customer relations (SC said it wasn't necessary). The squeaking issue went away, but the rusting did not. TM is blaming the rusted rotors on the fact that we live in a saltwater area. I am pulling them off tomorrow to give them a coat of silver boat trailer paint (non-pad surfaces only). May paint the calipers with high temp paint while in there...

Mine were replaced last fall due to the apparent harmonic distortion issue - problem solved.

Yes, had intermittent squeaky brakes for first couple of weeks I owned the car. Drove me nuts. Service center said it could be the cold mornings here in the Philly area, and said if it continues to bring in the car. It has since stopped (weather has warmed a bit, and car is now 6 weeks old) so I haven't thought about it.

After a year and 23000 miles I first noticed the brakes squeaking. Dry hot environment, no rain since I drove to Seattle a month ago. I will check with service center.

Noisy brakes is, nine out of ten times, material buildup on the pads. Proper "break in" procedures are important to avoid it.
When brakes are rarely used to an extent that they can get really hot, you get all kinds of stuff that builds up on the pads friction material. This foreign material can cause squeaky brakes. Different driving styles explain why some people experience it more than others.

The more "sporty" friction-material is, the more likely it will squeal when cold. And the MS pads can definitely be classified as High End.

Use the brakes more often. Break then in properly (repeat when needed).

Now with 3500+ miles on my car that I took delivery of late June. Loving every moment of the P85+ - but wondering why the Tesla red brakes squeak when coming to a stop. It's the kind of squeak that a minivan or bus makes. Really detracts from the "intergalactic cruiser" aura of the vehicle. Any solutions?


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