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Where would you like to see Tesla set up Super Chargers?

I have a couple long drives I undertake and came up with a list that would be convenient for me. Somehow I think Tesla will take a wider array of people into account :)

Here is where I would like to see them (for my personal convenience of course :) )
North Bay, ON
Barrie, ON
Stratford, ON
Niagara, Falls, ON
Erie, PA
Morgantown, WV
Beckley, WV
Charlotte or Statesville, NC

I actually anticipate Tesla will concentrate their super chargers in/near their hottest U.S. markets (at least initially), but I can dream about them being in more out of the way places.

Where would they suit you best?

Brian H, I beg to differ. Having paid the $2k for the supercharger on my 60 kWh car, I think the expectation is 150 mile spacing, not 200 miles- and I expect SC access to accommodate all the owners who paid extra for it. As seen by the NY times knucklehead, in the winter 200+ mi spacing is too far anyway even for 85 kWh.

Longer spacing encourages longer charge times and ties up the SC spots... that's why they say '150 mi in 30 min' since after that charge rate slows down. So 150 mi spacing seems rational... and the 60 kWh is designed to work with that.

Super;
Civilization may have other ideas. Eh-heh-hehhehhehhehheh! You've been isolated for a reason, you know.

+1 DTsea

@DTsea - I agree with the 150mi spacing, but you have to expect taking a 60kWh car on a long trip is going to be more hassle than a 85kWh one. For starters, you will have to charge longer at each Supercharger, and you will have less flexibility of leaving the path of Superchargers.

DTsea;
where did I suggest 200mi. spacing? 150 mi. is the standard, designed to approximate a 50% 85kWh fill-up. Remember, TM was reluctant to include S/C in the 60s, and did so only under considerable pressure -- and made no commitment to adjust the S/C network to accommodate them. It is a long-distance cross-country travel network, and 60kWh cars are not marketed or intended for that purpose.

If individual owners want to try and stretch it, and use Level II and other resources as well, and so on, that's their affair. But nobody owes them a living. And their slower filling rate and frequent need to top up is a drag and clog in the system.

P.S.;
DTsea;
The only mention I see of 200-mi. spacing is one page back, gammd. Making the most of the fewest stations. But charge time is disproportionately higher with wider separation. (ESPECIALLY for 60kWh cars.) Not optimum.

In Norway:
1 between Oslo and Trondheim
1 between Oslo and Bergen
1 between Oslo and Stavanger
1 in Oslo, Bergen and Stavanger

The coast to coast SuperCharger highway will allow cross country travel for drivers where the corridor is created. I travel between LA and OKC on occasion and the current 1350 mile trip takes about 21 hours. The Escalade requires about 4 fuel stops. At least 4 food stops and an overnight stay adds comfort to the journey. Add in a few rest stops especially at night.

If the SuperCharger stations are 150 to 200 miles apart, then 7 charge stops are needed. A estimate of the dots on the Tesla map plus other rumored data give the following rough estimates with the mileage to the station:

Barstow 106 (add 30 from LA)
Kingman 205
Flagstaff 148
Lupton (AZ NM stateline) 163
Albuquerque 162
Tucumcari 172
McLean 184
OKC 185

My Lupton, AZ "rest stop" guess is not a quality location unless a 24 hour restaurant is added. The dots on the Tesla map are not ideal due to grades in and out of Albuquerque. I would suggest installing at Holbrook 91, Grants 157, Albuquerque 82, Santa Rosa 114, Amarillo 172, Elk City 148, and OKC 112 instead. This would total 9 stops instead of 7. Adding a ChargeStation between Barstow and Kingman could avoid a detour through Las Vegas during cold weather.

I'm wondering if we did some legwork for Tesla, would that help get more superchargers placed? From what I've read, it sounds like the problem is not the cost of the equipment, but, instead, gaining access to appropriate locations. We may know of possible ideal locations that would help them out. For example, there is a fairly large "park and ride" on a major highway (route 7- Middlebury--major travel route for tourists and ski/boarders nearby that would not be on Tesla's "radar" but is heavily traveled. What if we contacted owners and asked them if they would be interested in "hosting" a supercharger? We could be the liasons, working through Tesla and local business owners. I guess we would need information such as costs for property owners, insurance concerns...Do the owners of the property need to pick up the cost of the electricity being used? I know that they are all to be solar eventually, but I don't think that they are now.

From what I have heard and read the issue has to do with getting the appropriate approvals for the SCs. Even Harris Ranch was reluctant initially to allow them to install the SC - of course that has changed now:-)

@bsimoes;
I believe TM is actively seeking suggestions and even "deals". But the electricity is a matter for Solar City. They pay for it all, and recoup their costs (overall, on a yearly basis) by erecting arrays producing excess power which they sell to the utilities concerned. An individual site might or might not have any arrays; that doesn't matter. It's the overall system which "works" financially.

Auburn

Mariposa, on the way to Yosemite!

Lets not forget NYC to Toronto.

Auburn, Monterey, Yosemite, Truckee, San Francisco

Ft. Pierce, Florida near junction of Florida Turnpike and I95. That would allow trips between Orlando and Miami, also between Miami and Space Coast area.

Primm, Nevada

Las Vegas, Nevada

Vacaville ca
Auburn ca
Truckee ca
Monterey ca

Is the 10 bay at Harris Ranch configuration that's expected better than putting in 2, 4, or 6 bay charging stations at closer intervals to get the same total number of charging bays over several hundred miles of highway?

Joel, better or not I think the reality is that it is easier to expand existing sites than to get approval for and provision a new site. For now it will be the minimal set of sites they think can cover the important routes.

Joel, I think smaller stations, closer together, but Harris is unique. Its the only "destination" around on the vast wasteland that is i5 to la. Well, actual great scenery with the aquafer and fruit groves but not much else...

@Electron, I-5 is a good example of what you state for another reason, as there are not a lot of places to stop along I-5 with anything to do or eat. I would personally prefer that efforts be made to put the SCs in places with something to do and expand at those locations as needed.

Along Pacific Coast Highway,
I-5 from San Diego to Seattle

In the Harrah's Casino parking lot in South Lake Tahoe. It is a big parking lot so good signage will be very helpful. Killing a few hours in the casino is a ho brainer or even an hour for a nice meal. If you choose Harvey's casino, that's ok also but we gamble in Harrahs more often.

I'd like to see them strung out along I-90, I-80, I-70, and I-10 from coast to coast but bias their spacing so that they are at the intersections of major north-south interstates to enable north-south travel.
I also hope that Tesla works out deals with major hotel chains (Marriott? Hilton?) to install 240v charging stations for overnight charging at hotels.
I make it a habit to ask the managers of every hotel I stay at for business whether they have a charging station. I usually show them the public charging stations in their area and tell them that as soon as a hotel in their area has a charging station, I'll have to stay there the next time.
The reception to the idea tends to usually be fairly warm.

Need super chargers on I80/90 from Chicago heading east! It's barren out there, as I just drove from Chicago to Toledo with some serious range anxiety!

@drjain06,
If you think its barren headed east out of Chicago, you should try heading west out of there sometime :-)
Seriously, though, I agree that east out of Chicago should be first since that is where it will affect the most people. This will increase demand faster.

Near the intersection of I-5 and highway 58 in Buttonwillow, CA, seemingly halfway between Harris Ranch and LA, Google Maps suggests one can find food at Willow Ranch, McDonald's, Subway, Taste of India, or Quiznos. Why not put a supercharger at one or more of these restrauants?

(ICE drivers have access to at least three different brands of fuel in that area.)

That exit near Buttonwillow is a good exit with lots of stuff, but it's only 40 miles north of the chargers at Tejon Ranch.

@Joel N. Weber II and Darmok,
It doesn't make sense for Tesla to spend a lot of money on that location since they have the nearby Tejon and Harris Ranch locations. However, it might make sense for the merchants at that exit to put in a 70 amp Level 2 charger if they want to attract Tesla's. If you frequent those stops a lot, you might want to suggest it to the managers of the various establishments. They can probably install an HPWC or Clipper Creek CS-100 for under $3K.


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