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Crash testing complete

5* Max rating per Elon tweet. Model S ready for production.

Elon Musk (@elonmusk)
5/21/12 10:05 PM
Major Tesla milestone: All crash testing is complete for 5* (max) safety rating. Cars can now be built for sale to public!

Amazing!! Bring 'em on!

Great news!

Dropped some change on tsla this morning thinking it might be a buy. This is good news, I suspect...

OMG !

Thank you Elon and everyone involved, probably not getting ours til Dec, but just awesome news.

Another major accomplishment! Amazing news. I am so ready to see the Model S on the road. Great job Tesla Motors. Congratulations to all Tesla employees. Well done.

We have lift off!

Double liftoff!
Congrats on both milestones!!
(Dragon X and safety tests)

Any word on what the * means?
Sorry, very hungry for details and I can't find any official information yet.

Sell on the rumor, Buy on the news...

Great day for Elon!!!

As for word, the stock is already up more than a dollar in value before the open. I'm setting a buy at $31 - and expecting it to go above that. This is great news!

Any word on what the * means? (Mark22)

"5*" read five-star safety rating.
http://www.safercar.gov/Safety+Ratings

Yeah; "aster-isk" means "star thingie". ;)

What's Elon going to do for his hat trick?

@epley the charging related announcement in July...

WOW, This is REALLY getting EXCITING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anyone seen anything about this besides Elon's tweet? Don't find anything on NHTSA or safecar.gov web sites. And it wasn't mentioned in the latest blog post.

MandL, if I am not mistaken, NHTSA will purchase a vehicle through the regular process, without revealing who they are. This means that official ratings are still out for some time to come, and no one can foresee at this point when to expect them.

I assume that Elon's tweet means two things:
- According to Tesla's own tests, there is reasonable expectation that the car should receive a 5 star rating (in each and every category, as Elon likes to emphasize) when tested by NHTSA.
- The car has proven to meet regulations so that it can legally be sold (in the US).

Btw, there's a typo in your post. The website is:
http://www.safercar.gov

I think they just finished the testing. Results won't be published until the report is completed.

I doubt they would have announced the June 22nd delivery without having all of their ducks in a row.

If NHTSA buys their cars through a regular, covert purchase, then they cannot test cars that are not on sale for the public. In other words, cars go on public before the NHTSA has completed their rating. NHTSA safety rating is on top of homologation, it's not part of it, as far as I know.

Does anyone know when we can actually read the specifics about the safety testing? I'm just curious. It's been almost a month...well, three weeks, but it would seem that we should be able to access more information.

bsimoes, there is a whole bunch of info that should already be on this site but isn't..... won't repeat - i have had my rant elsewhere - see comments after Georges most recent blog post. Certainly, what is not an option should be off this site, such as the 19in aero wheels.....
However, specifically, you are, of course, correct.

Holding your breath for a government entity to report = death by suffocation!!

dborn, I didn't mean to necessarily even find it on the Tesla site. I've done open searches and there has been nothing posted anywhere about the testing that has been done to earn the five stars. Apparently, a report needs to be written, but it would seem that there must be a time limit to meet. It would be like hiring a contractor to build a porch, and not getting the job done for five years. There must be a regulation around this...we're talking "government" here!

This may help explain why you can't review the Model S results at NHTSA's public site right now -

This is similar to my experience when my company tests our tech products for compliance with government regs. Here is how it works:

If the NHTSA is like other government agencies - FCC, FDA, etc., they often license private labs to do testing, or specify how a submission must be made for compliance if you self-test.

They don't secretly buy stuff and randomly test it (Commercial entities like Consumer Reports may sometimes do that).

That means that TM likely hired a lab to complete the tests and then submitted the results to the NHSTA.

Because the test specifications are well documented and the process is defined by statute, TM would be in a position to know the exact results with certainty before NHTSA compiles it's next round of data for publishing.

Elon tweeted when he was certain of the definitive test results.

It's a done deal now.

NHTSA will publish the results at their next regular interval, which may be quarterly or annual.

I read on another post that Elon Musk said to the shareholders that the Model S would have received a 6th star if there was a category for another test.

Anyone know what it was that he was referring to?

The standard crash test is 35 mph. Elon said that Tesla did the crash test at 50 mph and it passed. He also said that it was not just the front-into-a-barrier, but also the test where only half or a quarter of the front connects. The sixth star was if there was such a rating, they Tesla would get it.

thanks, it was alluded to in the post about autonomous braking. I thought if it was that it would definitely already be on the specs.

Elon also mentioned a side-pole impact test which is only done at 1 point, so some manufacturers "cheat" and reinforce that point. They tested at multiple points to be sure the S is the safest car.


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