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Opportunity Console

I know that George B. suggested that feedback on the "opportunity console" be posted over at TMC and I'm sure that will happen. But there doesn't seem to be any reason that we can't also post pictures and comments (feedback) right here.

- Has anyone seen the opportunity console yet?
- Is it even being displayed during the test drives today?
- Does anyone have pics?
- What's your opinion of the modular console system, if you've seen it in person?

Those of us who'd like a solution for the central interior space are anxious for info. Thx.

Yes, sounds like you could even buy both, and switch back and forth. Plus get one of sofl's custom jobs. Decisions, decisions; which console will Tessie wear today? ;)

Brian, LOL! Yes, just like hats, we can start a new trend of re-building your car daily. Maybe someone can come up with a do it yourself temporary paint kit, so you can reprint your car to fit your mood! :-)

The console could have room for a custom umbrella, and of course sunglasses. A lockable compartment for a wallet and phone would also be handy. Since there seem to be plenty of room towards the front a space with cooler for a couple of bottles would be nice (for storing unopened bottles, not the one currently open in the centre console)

Perhaps room for a camera/laptop with access to charger inside (with the big battery perhaps a 110/230v access would be possible) ?

Look forward to the delivery..

Tiki;
With vinyl wraps, you can do that, too. I was imagining the Tour staff, after the last date they need Elon's car in the mix, returning it to him with a garish paisley wrap on it, telling him it got a few scratches, so they had it sanded down and beautified.

>:)

"Lift Off! Musk 1 has cleared the tower, throttling up to full thrust!"

I don't want to restart the great console wars, but way back in 2011, many of us in the pro-console constituency argued that a weak interior would give the auto press something to complain about, even as they rave about the performance of the Model S. Sure enough, it's begun to happen.

This from the AutoWeek's (http://www.autoweek.com/article/20120625/carreviews/120629886#ixzz1yukJjaC7) first-look review:

If the Tesla's latest [Model S] has any glaring shortcomings, they're in the interior. While the overall design is nice, for a car that the company claims is family-oriented and everyday usable, it's missing a number of amenities that buyers take for granted.

The AutoWeek reviewer goes on to say:

The company does say that a variety of center-console modules are under development. We doubt that the early adopters who've plunked down cash for the first thousand cars will miss the amenities all that much. They'll even likely be happy to have the opportunity to personalize their cars further. The mass market will not be so kind.

As a stockholder, it's the last sentence in the preceding paragraph that concerns me.

The Opportunity Console is a great idea, but only if it provides solutions that range from minimalist to a full center console. If TM doesn't respond quickly (before detailed reviews of the car occur), I'm worried that negative press on the interior will influence at least some of the second wave of buyers (in 2013) and that others "will not be so kind" when they compare the Model S interior to other competitive brands.

Nothing that a little marketing highlighting the unique ability to customize the car's interior with modular pieces couldn't overcome.

+1 Soflauthor. The mass market will have different expectations than early adopters and will be directly comparing the Modle S to others in the premium/luxury class all of which provide well integrated and ergonomic solutions to storage and cup holders for both front and back seats.

+1 also to Soflauthor. The 2nd wave of buyers that will be comparing this car to others in the premium/luxury class will not be so accepting of having modular pieces as a replacement for a center console and having to pay extra for it no less.

Personally, big mistake for Tesla to make any console an upcharge.

Free option make the console haters and lovers live happily ever after ... and Tesla would only have to fork out the few dollars for those who opt for the console.

StevenR;
Can't win that way. Then the console-non-users feel ripped-off, as they're "sharing" the cost of the users' consoles. Saying TM will pay for it is like saying the gubmint will pay; there's really only one pocket to pick. "Shared costs" are subsidies.

Good point. Sorry I was brainwashed during Obama 2012 ad.

StevenR, your initial reaction actually seems most logical.

The mainstream market expects certain key elements included in a car that are currently missing: concealed storage within reach of the driver, functional cup holders that can be used simultaneously with arm rests, rear seat storage and rear seat cup holders. Negative space for purse, briefcase, laptop etc. is a plus but not at the expense of relinquishing basic expected items.

Folks opting out of items that normally come standard on a car would likely be much less disappointed that they get no credit for opting out than mainstream buyers who are charged extra for things they naturally expect to be standard. The perspectives of both types of buyers and the relative prevalence of each need to be considered and weighed.

If they do this right and don't get greedy in the process Tesla has an opportunity to turn a negative selling point (current configuration lacks basic expected features) into a big positive selling point (the customer gets his/her choice of configurations). It is to their credit that they have requested feedback on the issue. What they decide may well have a notable affect on sales, particularly among buyers comparing Model S to other premium/luxury sedans who expect not to pay extra for what are standard features on comparable cars.

+ 1 ddruz. Couldn't have said it better. Excited about design TM will come up with that adresses the need for covered storage in a car competing in the family / luxury sedan market.

I thought the small "Shelf"underneath the display and the non skid pads/ridges, gave the best of both worlds; a place to put glasses, wallet, phone, maybe even an iPad while leaving the center area open for a briefcase, umbrella etc.

I have a few suggestions :
1. put a door on the shelf. Preferably seamless & without a handle, slight pressure and it slowly releases / opens like some of the old CD boom box and cassette doors used to.
2. Cover the door in either
Best option = Leather matching the interior. This would better frame the screen and make the entire area more appealing
Alternative = Make the door out of the Décor
3. Place a USB port inside the "Shelf". This would help eliminate visible cords.

Slightly off topic: I liked the Arm rest with cup holders for the rear seats. I really feel this is Classy and Essential. PLEASE make it fold down out of the seat the way it does in other cars.

I really like and appreciate the minimalist interior, however, the things I've mentioned above would make the car much more comfortable and, I think, more acceptable to the masses.

Thank you for your consideration of my ideas.

P2576

Correction:

Thank you for your consideration of OUR ideas.

P2576

+1 DDruz

P2576

I am not getting their prototype of the console. It looks like hardly a change from no console?

It looks way low so you will have to reach down to find things when you are driving. I have never seen such a console in a car before. I would much rather have an arm level console that has pockets/places to put things than just an empty hole down by my feet.

Now if they offered this as a base with a modular design that allows me to purchase different click in bit, this would be way cool. I could then orginize it the way I want with the phone charger where I want, the change dish where I want, the cup holders and size where I want or I could just leave it empty.

In fact for a trip I might feel the need to reconfigure it to meet my needs.

Now this would truely be innovative!

Well, to bring this down to the most basic motivations for a console is IMO:

We all have things (cell phone, charging cords, toll transponders, loose change, pens, etc) that need a place to call home. EVERY car needs some type of hidden storage that is readily accessible. The current format is no where near close to taking care of that.

It has to be concealable - so a smash and grab for your $5 gold pen doesn't leave you waiting 2 months to have new glass shipped only to have someone tear apart your door panels and leave you with a perpetual rattle, creak or worse..

It has to be confined - so stuff isn't flying when you open a window.

Just some basics we all take for granted.

An important question relating to the console, or lack thereof: where are the USB ports?

murray;
have a talk with sofl; maybe an aftermarket market is there for a modular concept like that. I'm sure TB and GB wanted to stay minimalist.

The USB ports are under the driver's armrest, opening toward the screen.

At the risk of being redundant, I though a few of you might like to see what I just posted at TMC. Repeated below:

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A number of you have referenced my rudimentary line sketch of a full center console insert (CCI) and expressed some interest in something like it. I took a 2 - hour break from real work this afternoon to draw a more detailed (if still a bit sloppy) annotated sketch in the hope that TM might provide a professionally designed version of this modular option as part of the "opportunity console." Consider this a more refined recommendation, TM.

The CCI design is self-contained. It can be press-fit and inserted into the existing central floor channels or fastened to the channel base using a very simple fastening system. The darkened area is the press fit portion of the CCI shaped to the exact contour of the channel interior walls and floor. The press-fit portion sits below the top of the channels (unseen by occupants). The CCI can be inserted directly, without the need to remove any existing hardware or interior elements. The top of the CCI will be just a bit below the top of the front seat surfaces, so it maintains a low profile.

The CCI contains three storage boxes. All storage box have 'smooth-glide' flip-up covers and the entire central surface is covered in accessory trim (in my case, lacewood). The main storage box is 5" deep and allows for 'insertable' specialty modules—e.g., a self-contained cup-holder (to manage spillage) that is pressed into place inside the box (it can be removed for cleaning). The sides of the CCI are leather (to match) and the top surface of the CCI is recessed about an inch, allowing the driver to place a purse or small leather case and not have it slide off during cornering.

I would argue that the CCI I propose is simple to build and very simple to install. In fact, if done properly, it could be installed by the owner with no problem.

My guess is that more complete CAD drawing can be generated in a few days (if one has the accurate dimensions of the central interior space and channels), a prototype can be built in less than two weeks, and fabrication drawings and specs can be implemented within another week.

IMO, a full CCI like this should be available in August +/-, or very shortly thereafter. Speaking only for myself, if that doesn't happen, I'll build a prototype immediately after I take delivery and then try to find a fabricator that can realize my design asap. I suspect that this might be a small business opportunity, if TM decides not to provide a full CCI (an error, IMO). In any event, I'll have a full CCI my car -- it's just that I'd prefer not to have to go it alone, but I will.

Though --> thought. Need edit!!!

Big +1 Soflauthor!

I think it's great. If Tesla doesn't match the functionality of your design, I (and I think others) would be interested in ordering one from you aftermarket.

I think your design provides a great amount of space for just the things I need while still maintaining a low profile in that space

Thank you for taking the time to provide Tesla such great feedback.

+1 to Soflauthor - much closer to what i had in mind than what i've seen so far....

TM and the Opportunity Console.

1. TM reminds me of a reprimanded child whose Mother instructs him/her to do something they don’t want to do. TM, Designers, clearly do not want this console. Their efforts appear minimalistic and half hearted at best.

2. Lemons to Lemonade. I commend TM’s spin doctor. Rename a design deficiency as an opportunity and make it an option. Brilliant!

Soflauthor. An excellent effort.

+ 1 Soflauthor. Your design would fit all my needs. Thank you for your input

If Tesla expects women to buy these cars, they best have an answer to the question I was asked:

"Where do I put stuff"? I think Soflauthor just found a need and filled it.

But, but, won't you have to buy a bunch of Ses, paint them and the CCI orange, and smash them from various directions to see if the CCI becomes a safety hazard?
;)


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