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Panoramic Glass Roof Heat questions

Looking to finalize my Tesla and live in Florida. Any new owners out there in HOT states with Pano Roof option think it is too hot when left outside?
I know Tesla says blocks 98% visible (is this UV?) and 81% heat blockage also.
Just want real world answer. Will be kept in garage majority of time but when at work do not have that option and it gets pretty toasty here in FLORIDA.
Thanks for any comments on the matter.

I drove the perf model with pano last month ... hot day in Ft. Lauderdale. And I was very skeptical.

NO ISSUES whatsoever.

Riding in it completely alleviated my concerns.

I did the same drive in Dania but when I went was too overcast to determine

I've had my Range Rover for six years (in Florida) and never opened the roof.

Why do people want the Pano? Cabin light, headroom? I sat in a pano car yesterday and had the same comment that someone else on the forum did - the majority of the pano opening is behind the driver and almost (IMHO) not noticeable.

I also didn't notice a significant difference in cabin light between the pano and solid roof (i.e. the pano didn't make the car any lighter). That was in a direct side-by-side test of a pano S vs a solid roof S.

Despite how good it is at blocking heat there is (for me ) virtually no upside and a lot of downside (heat, cost, something else to break). One of the few upsides is the potential to add roof rails - so far these are exclusive to the pano.

What do others (esp those in hot climates) think?

Pano roof feels more open and I love the idea of a sunroof as I opened mine frequently in my Accord. With the Pearl White and contrasting Pano roof, it's a MUST BUY for me!

nickjhowe,

I don't like roof openings of any kind. However, the additional rear headroom and the crew ports appear to make it an almost mandatory purchase.

nickjhowe, I concur with jerry3. The pano roof is almost a mandatory purchase. IMO if a person is choosing only one option it should be the pano roof because it effectively buys a functional rear seat and turns the car into a true 5 seater. I had planned on the hard top both to save the $1500 and because I had a sunroof on a previous car which I rarely used. This was till I sat in the rear seats of cars with and without the pano roof and took measurements with a tape measure.

The head room in the rear seat is so cramped without the pano roof and so noticeably better with the pano roof that buying the car without the pano roof would be sacrificing functional use of the rear seat for many of my potential passengers. There are many corroborating statements about the differences in rear seat headroom with and without the pano roof both here and on the TMC forums. In my mind buying the pano roof is generally more about rear seat headroom than about light, air and ventilation.

Check the comments coming in from the Houston event:
http://www.teslamotors.com/en_CA/forum/forums/finally-got-test-drive-mod...

Your doubts will be silenced. :D

A nice 100 + degree day in the BLAZING Arizona sunshine will make most dark colored things too hot to touch if left outside. My last experience with a "Sun / Moonroof" was not very positive, NOT because the roof itself was bad or problematic. but because I found that I NEVER used it and rarely opened the sunshade. Driving with it open caused too much wind buffeting and noise to enjoy conversation or music w/o headphones and like many even when closed the additional wind noise was noticable over my other car with no sunroof. (Note cars were both 2002 Lincoln Town Car Cartier Series) We had one with sunroof and one without and they were both owned driven during the same time period.

That said ... I did not notice any appreciable difference in cabin heating when parked in direct sunlight in the summer. Probably apples to oranges to compare with the Panoramic Tesla offering

"FAST FORWARD" to 2013 Tesla. for me?? Probably No Panoramic Roof. Great when new perhaps but seals drying out, potential leaks, additional wind noise, squeaks etc. I likely will keep my Model S (if I can get the purchase done) for a considerable amount of time. And one thing I know FOR SURE,.. the solid roof panel will NOT have any of those potential problems.

As was written elsewhere in this thread.. It's just something else to break

Can anyone comment on how much wind noise occurred when the roof was open? In our Lexus it is the main reason the sun roof is not opened that often.

Hardly any noise when I was going 80 compared to my fx and mini s. if you don't need more headroom at least get black top because it looks much better and lower to the ground IMO.

cerjor,

There are a number of youtube videos of the various Get Amped tours. A number of these have the pano roof open and you can still hear what is being said (no so with some of the ones they have the audio system on). Noise doesn't appear to be a problem.

Not so with

I also live in South Florida and I would love to hear from someone with a roof similar to the pano roof in the Model S. I'm not looking to see if it is comfortable to drive while the AC is on, that is not my concern. I am wondering how much hotter the car gets while it is baking in the sun while it's parked.

The idea of being able to turn the AC on remotely through the iPhone app alleviates a significant portion of my concern, but I am curious to know if anyone has any real world experience with a panoramic roof in a hot, sunny climate.

- I am wondering how much hotter the car gets while it is baking in the sun while it's parked.

Me too.

On one of the drives I role along on last weekend, we had the pano roof full open. There was some wind buffeting (the thwub thwub thwub resonant sound like you get sometimes with a window open) at a particular speed. Our co-pilot closed the roof, but really as soon as the roof started to close the sound went away, so I think it is likely to be possible to eliminate the effect by adjusting the roof's position.

I drove with the sunroof open all the time on my 1996 BMW, and I missed it when I got my EV-1 and then my RAV4-EV. I can't wait to have an open roof again!

Jeez, I wish you could edit posts. "rode along on"

The Guide for Owners, when describing the Sunroof control on the touchscreen, states "Drag the slider bar to the indents to minimize wind noise. This moves the sunroof to the 80% open position." The sunroof open to 80% is relatively quiet. The sunroof open to 100% has enough noise to impede easy conversation between the front and rear seats.

Rod and Barbara, I wanted to personally thank you for answering so many questions on this forum. I appreciate that you haven't abandoned the forum now that you have your Model S. Hopefully other owners will follow your lead and help the rest of us who are still waiting.

Have you left the car in the sun? If so, have you noticed any difference in how hot the interior is in comparison to other vehicles?

Yes, I'd like to echo Electric Machete's remarks. I greatly appreciate the contributions that Rod and Barbara have made in providing frequent and helpful postings.

Thanks.

Larry

Ditto big time. Rod and Barbara, you are the best.

One thing I don't see mentioned much is weight. I don't know this for sure, however, glass is usually heaver than body metal and headliner, plus I am sure the motor that opens the pano roof also weighs a bit more than not.

Thus I opted to just get a body-color roof, so my peformance Sig S will be extra lean and fast!

Tiki;
So you can out-drag Perfs with pano? That's greedy.

@ Electric, Larry, ddruz – Thanks for the kind words. We are enjoying our Model S very much and we love to talk about our experiences.

With respect to Electric’s question about the car sitting in the sun, we live in Southern California, known for it’s temperate climate. However, we are going through a hot spell lately with highs approaching 95 deg F. Our Model S sits in the driveway fully exposed to the sun (Roadster owns the garage). The sun definitely bakes the car and the chrome door handles on the side facing the sun can become almost too hot to touch. The interior of the car, qualitatively, feels to us the same as our Sienna minivan that also sits outside in the sun. After riding in the car for some time, if think if there is any difference in heating under a baking sun between the Model S and Sienna it would most likely be due to the board horizontal expanse of the windshield on the S compared to the Sienna than to the pano vs hard roof.

Brian,

LOL! I guess I still think like a racer ;-)

But seriously, I can't wait to watch Rustdang and Camero owners mouths hit their floorboards!

Model S, the next generation of American made muscle car?

BYT;
Family muscle car -- please!! >:(

I forgot, your Canadian, right Brian H? :)

For your sake "Model S, the next generation of North American made family muscle car" ... and your welcome... :D

Thanks Rod and Barbara. Great answer. Interesting comment about the door handles getting too hot.

BYT;
Bumpkin! It's "you're". If you're Texan, you get to use "yer" for your and you're, but not "yore".
LOL

Or is that Brooklyn? I ferget.

/:\


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