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How long should a normal set of factory-issued 19" tires last?

Yes, I know how you drive can drastically affect tire life, and I hear some folks have had unexpected surprises, but I'm curious how long a normal set of these tires is expected to last assuming I drive normally? I find it odd that people are saying 10-15K miles in some cases; my dad just bought a Ford Focus ST, and he expects his tires to get 15-20K, and they're rated 240. What's the rating on the factory issue tires, and how many miles does that translate to? I see lots of 480 and even 500-540 tires online for $160-200/tire, which is barely more expensive than the mid-range tires (540) I currently have on my Honda Civic, and those go for 60K miles.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe a lot of the low mileage accounts you read around here (15,000 or less between tire changes) apply to the 21" wheels.

You can go to the Tire Rack website. There you can find specs of all tires on the market. I believe the 19" Goodyear tire has a thread life rating of around 400. 21" Conti has a rating of around 300 and Michelin PSII on P+, the same tire I have on my Porsche, has a rating of 220. I got 15000 mile rear and 20000 mile front with a pretty spirited drive but it's a very different car of course.

Coming up to my 12,000 mile service, my 19" tires look just fine. More wear on the rear than the front but wear across the tread seems to be uniform. I expect rotation will give me at least another 12,000 miles and based on current wear rate probably more.

When I went for a test drive, the Tesla rep told me to expect 20k-30k on the 19" tires.

These cars are really heavy like Saabs. This means the tires are going to wear a little bit faster than a typical weight sedan.

I would expect about 20-27k in a state with all weather conditions.

Back in the day....I typically was able to get away with 2 tire replacements every 12 months on my 9-3(if i didn't rotate). I found this was much more efficient than rotating after a few years for myself monitarily. After 10 years I purchased 2 extra tires becuase of not rotating, but I didn't mind.

Having said that, if I stayed rotating them as I did the first 4 years, I would get an extra 6k out of the whole set, but would have to purchase and replace all four at once. Which didn't work for my finances at the time.

If you go all sporty and buy Z rated performance tires or something expect a year for the set.

@machmike....weight wise they r kind of like the Mercedes and BMW coupes/Sedans...........

@yodasminion: I share this concern/question for the 19" tires. I was initially shocked at the low low low tread life reports before realizing it seemed mostly restricted to the 21's and also possible alignment problems on the earlier VINs. But, from what searching I did on volkerize, it still seems like numbers are all over the board. I understand that OEM tires (here, the Goodyears) typically don't last that long, but I would expect 30K-40K on a 3,500lbs. car all variables removed. Given that the MS is 4,700lbs. (not counting occupants/luggage), I'm not sure how much wear / tread life reduction that extra weight on each tire imposes. If I could get 25K on the tires and they're pretty cheap (i.e. tirerack prices quoted elsewhere in these forums), then I'm OK with it. But, sub-20K miles on the 19" tires would be an annoying headache. Based on what I'm reading, there's no way I'd go for the 21" at this point, but that's just me. If anyone can offer additional or updated input / data / wear / treadlife info on the Goodyears on the 19" rims, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks.

Have no doubt we will reach 25k on these tires based on what we see at 7k. Rotated by Tesla at about 6000. Will continue same schedule. Now all tires look to be wearing the same.

I was asked to change my tiles at 17K miles. The one I just changed 9 months ago, and they asked to change as well. It was quite shocking that the 19' tires lasted so short time. I am extremely upset about the quality of the tires. I don't drive much at all. they did normal coronation and alignment regularly. Any comment from any other driver on this issue? I am taking this to Tesla service center to drill down the quality of the tires.

I spent over $900 on the tires. Is this normal price or do I must change at Tesla service center? The price is another issue, but the key is the quality of the tires they use on this "high end" cars. :(

32,000 on my 19" original factory Michelin Primacy. Expect to replace soon.

I know this has been said and is common sense but it can't be said enough - maintain proper pressure, check regularly for uneven wear (alignment) and get them rotated regularly. Tires last literally 2-3 times (or more) as long when all of that is taken care of.

22,500 miles on my original 19" tires, no appreciable wear. I get them rotated every 5,000 miles

My tires lasted less than one mile. If you watch this video very closely, you can see how quickly the tread was worn down:

http://youtu.be/Fetr9gsR4vI

19,000 miles
2 original tires
1 flat
1 wore out due to bad alignment (somehow managed to wear on the side wall, revealing steel belt)

@yodasminion

If you've been here long enough, you would know how I drive as I would post my energy consumption pictures periodically.

I used to excessively floor the accelerator and encourage my family and friends to do the same for the first 25,000 miles, but for the latter half, I have done so less for the last 25,000 miles.

I drove with my original 19' Good Year tires for almost 50,000 miles (49,456 to be exact).

My front tires still have 9mm so I am still keep those originals.

My rear tires wore down to 4mm so I went ahead and had two rear tires replaced for the first time (2mm is the threshold for replacement)!

I have over 27,000 on the 19" goodyears they still have about 5/32 left.

@Tabarnouche you must be loaded and don't mind buying new tires every 1 mile. :)

My car is like me: it doesn't like wearing rubbers...

I am replacing my original 19" at just over 20,000 miles, BUT some of the wear issues I am looking at is due to me NOT rotating often enough. I am replacing at America's Tires (total cost to replace both REARS due to significant wear on the INSIDE of each rear is $325).

They are telling me to rotate every 5,000 miles which I will follow and I expect to easily get over 30,000 from the fronts and most likely would have seen that overall HAD I ROTATED MORE FREQUENTLY.

OTOH, I have a P85D on order for delivery as soon as Tesla offers other than the black interior, and with that monster tire wear, even with my fairly conservative driving overall will likely be more "traumatic."

BUT even more fun !

Tabarnouche: +1 UP! 'A Life of Living Dangerously'...?

Tabernouche:

Ha! Funny :) Your comment reminded me of an incident that happened to me a few years ago.

I had a blowout on one of my tires near Kelbaker Rd. on Interstate 40 about halfway between Barstow and Needles. I put on the skinny "spare" tire and limped into Needles for gas. While I was fueling my car, a mechanic walks over and points to the skinny spare and tells me that they have used tires for sale. He went on to explain that their used tires were better than the three remaining tires on my car.

I said, "Well sir, when I turned 18 (I was about 56 at the time,) my pappy gave me a piece of advice. He told me, 'Son, there are only two things in life you never want to buy used: tires and rubbers.'"

The mechanic slinked away.

Michelin Primacy 19"
11,000 miles 8/32 on all 4 tires
Even wear, rotated every 5,000 miles

I had my tires rotated at 6000 miles and tires were in good shape. I was told to replace my rear tires (OEM 19" all season Goodyear) at 12.5K mile service. Tesla SC did check the alignment and they said it's good. I am not a spirited driver and quite disappointed about these tires which doesn't even make it to 20K.

Goodyear 19" factory
22k with 6/32.

Had to replace a pair due to nail in the middle.

$119/tire + installation: $297 total for 2 tires.

my guess is they would've lasted 35-40k miles.

At 14,000 miles and I get them rotated every 5,000 at a local discount tire for the cost of their tire insurance I bought when I got the Tesla. I see no significant wear at all and due for next rotation within the next month.

I did drive in some rain recently and the model S does like to get a little slick with all the torque it puts out. The traction control kicks in very quickly though.

Original Goodyear and second set of Michelin Primacy (rear only) lasted about 18K each, with the proper rotation. With Michelin 30K thread warranty, I just got a check of $250 in the mail, so the rear set was half price. Took a good month for all the paperwork to go through.

central;
slunk away

I have 40K miles on my MS85 (Signature) and I just had my third set of tires installed. On the last set, The tires looked OK from the outside but, as the service rep pointed out, they were so worn on the inside, that they were close to a blowout (thread was showing). He said that the uneven wear was normal because of the way the wheels are aligned (the camber). Doesn't sound right to me though that the wear should be so uneven.

I wonder what is happening with your tires. We have driven our P85 on the factory Goodyear 19" for more than 15.000 miles (25.000 km) in The Netherlands. We still have over 6.6 mm (0,261 Inch) on all tires.

There is also no vissible wear on the inside of the rear tires. We have some extra wear on the middle of the thread, but all our cars had this extra wear in the past. I suppose that this happens on the German Autobahn when we drive high speeds (over 200 km/h 120Mph?) for long distances.

With this ammount of wear on the tires, we expect to get at least 40.000 miles out of the first set. I rotate the tires once a year, when changing back from winter tires (last winter we drove only an extra 2000 miles on the winter tires due to the soft winter.)

I had reserved budget for new tires every year, but I assume that we can spend this money on our next Tesla fund... :-)


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