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Model S Features page changed - how the Key works

This just changed on the Features Page: (struck out text removed, bold added)

Programmable for individual drivers, the unique Tesla key is easily sensed by the vehicle, loading preferred settings like seat, steering wheel, and mirror positions. As you approach, the Tesla key commands the door handle to unlock, waiting for a simple tap to present itself. With it in your pocket, Model S turns on as you buckle in to the driver’s seat.

Seems to me that this feature they just removed would be governed by s/w, right? So a s/w update could add the feature back?

I am thinking that the functions deleted from the standard Model S "Features Page" might now be included in the "Tech Package." I have thought that the Tech Package was pretty expensive for the few added functions. Both our current cars have the ability to remember each driver's mirror and seat adjustments. One of them even displays the radio and cabin comfort settings for each individual driver. How difficult is this for Tesla? BTW; our Model S will have the Tech Package...

I would certainly HOPE they did not remove the features and make them a Tech package only thing. That will lead to another huge outcry. I am already locked in with the expected features without the Tech package. It will be another hot topic until they decide to leave it for those who already signed contracts.

If it was included in the Tech package it should be listed in the Tech package now. Sounds more to me like they are just adjusting it to match what the car currently does.

Hoping this is just temporary until they figure out how to get the car to recognize discreet keys. Another thread mentions the preferred settings function is currently only available from the touch screen.

@Sudre

I don't know if this would qualify as a huge outcry. The 60 kwh battery supercharger option was a big deal because people based their purchase decision on it. This, not so much.

Guys, pretty sure it is temporary alike the visor lighting and and reading lights or Supercharger HW for 60 kWh. Just to match the current capability. TM seems to be pretty keen on this. When they realize they can't offer it, they pull it from the web site.

thanks for flagging it.

I agree pbrulott. The fact is right now, the car and fob do not behave like the previous description states.

It's good to make sure that the website accurately describes the features.

They could perhaps add a section to describe features that will be enabled in the future, but I think there are good reasons not to have that on the site as well.

I sure hope this is a Temporary set back! How cab the "Best Car" Every not have such s basic 2012 feature??? The Auto Folding Mirrors are gone, etc... What next to go?

I am starting to get conserned about my purchase! (CDN Sig #146)

I would like some comfor that this BASIC feture loss is Temporary...

When I spoke to my config rep I asked if the key fob holds any of the seat memory information. I was told this information would only be available from the touch screen.

@CurrieG

I guess if you're used to luxury cars with all the fixins maybe this is a big deal to you. Having never had one with so much as power windows (not counting the wife's), the lack of memory in the key fob is a total non-issue for me.

I must confess to being a catalyst for this change on the Features web page. After receiving the answer from my rep that the memory profile functionality would only be available via the touchscreen and not the key fobs I emailed him back noting that if there were no plans for the key fobs to be linked to the memory profiles that the Features page was in error and Tesla should change it. The page was apparently changed within a few hours.

We therefore cannot assume that there are definite plans to link the memory functions to the key fobs. Such functionality may happen in the future but it is now no longer promised. I'll amend the Punch List accordingly.

Please ignore the italics in the above post. My formatting error.

Robert et al;
I don't see why the fob requires any memory at all. A simple ID linked to a profile stored in the car is sufficient and far more flexible and robust.

Sudre_ +1

Regarding the temporarilyness of this feature missing, I'm not so sure. Realistically, we are now back to square one and all we can have is wild guesswork or unfounded hope. Personally, I don't count on it coming any time soon, but I'm always open for nice surprises.

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It should be fairly easy to implement, since every keyfob has an ID.
There should be an option to attach the keyfob ID to a saved profile that is already there.
The feature is extremely useful, since as someone posted before, the drivers height, weight etc could be very different, and it's not easy to just sit down and press something in the menu.
At least a button on the door or on the seat would make a huge difference.

Personally, I don't mind too much wether the seats will take their proper position after opening the car with a specific FOB or after the push of a button. What is important however is that the seats will not stay in the position of the previous driver ! Imagine that your wife, who's 5ft tall, has last driven the car and now you want to get in while you're 6ft8... like a giant trying to enter a dwarf's house. If this is the case, then I think Tesla dropped the ball here big time. I'm still a huge fan of the Model S, but it starts to loose some of it's magic if more and more of these inconveniences keep showing up.

@haansberger

Someone posted a workaround on another thread.

Create a separate profile called "Exit" with the seat back and the steering wheel up. Whenever you get out, set it to "Exit" so the next person can get in without issues.

@Brian H: +1

Maybe it is a "what happens with two keys in close proximity" issue. I don't see how they could possibly distinguish between a key in the pocket of the driver and a key placed in the passenger seat.

sims, there are multiple sensors placed throughout the car, anyway. Somewhere over at TMC there is even a technical drawing that shows the position of all sensors.

The keyfob could be made to only activate a specific profile if the car was unlocked by clicking on the fob. Then there would be no problems with two fobs, the one which unlocks also set the profile.

I like the touchscreen implementation since you can then theoretically have more than two profiles; however, it wouldn't hurt to be able to link a profile to a key fob (assuming you can figure out the "if both key fobs are in the car" issue).

In other cars that have memory seats, mirrors, etc... The memory positions reside in the car, not the key phob. As suggested above... The key phons have RFIDs that tell the car who is approaching and them access the car's electronics / computer to set up for the driver..

Also....with the level of electronics / computer in the Model S! It would be easy to have many driver setting and only tie two to your two key phobs.

I surely hope this is a temporary setback until Tesla gets their software, etc stable and updated.

Longhorn;
Multiple fobs is not an issue. Sensors in the car locate all fobs, and respond to the one in the driver's seat.

I mind if the keyfob does not activate the seat settings. My wife is shorter than I am and sits much closer to the steering wheel. I cannot physically get into the seat in order to reach the touch screen and choose the driver. I haven't received my car yet so I don't know for sure that I couldn't carefully squeeze my arm across the driver seat and choose a driver. But this does seem silly. My Acuras have had this functionality (2006 TL, 2011 MDX).

@all who are concerned about the key fob profile issue:

Does it reduce your angst to consider that the smartphone app might allow you to select a driver profile before you get into the car?

@mrspaghet - nope. Seems crazy that the car can regnize each fob, and there is already code to select/control the seat config. linking the two would seem to be trivial.

If I have to get my phone out, find the app, select the option - I might as well just press the button on the 17" display.

I'm in the 6’8 category with 5 fit wife and my 03 car has this plus the steering wheel and seat move to let me get out and back in the car. Since you have to sit in the tesl to turn on the screen how can I possibly change the setting, I guess we'll have to do the exit thing just to ge out too probably it I'd hit my knees going out,

Serves you right for marrying below your height/station.


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