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Supercharging network progress seems slow

Hi guys,
Just noticing that there hasn't been any new supercharging locations announced for about 4 months now.
I thought Tesla was supposed to have around 100 stations in place across the USA in 12 months?
If they are to reach this goal they need to be adding roughly 8 supercharging locations every month.
Not sure what the hold up is? I figured they would have covered the entire eastern seaboard by June of this year.
At only $250,000 per station its just $25 million for the 100 station network. Not a great deal of money considering that they are spending $400 million per year on R&D, new stores, etc.
At this point I think the supercharging network is more important than new stores. Seems to me that most of the world's major cities are already covered.
Anyway...hope to see more supercharging stations soon!

Elon told everyone at the Geneva auto show that European superchargers would be 120kW, and another thread mentioned that new US superchargers had 120kW signage. So is that the announcement for this week, or is there more?

Not sure about Elon's announcement's :-). But thought he mentioned 120 at end of quarter discussion so I was thinking there was more about SC to come than that but could be wrong. With 120 kWh SC what is new guidance for time/range break down to charge an 85 kWh pack? Haven't come across that anywhere. Not sure want to guess since may not be relative to previous time/range since software controls involved.

@wonder - 120/90 = 133%. Or for the same charge 30 min becomes 23 min ( 90/120 = 75% or 25% less time ). This is for a nearly empty battery, close to full charge it is not determined by the SC power level, but how much the battery can accept.

Thanks I see that but as I said wasn't sure if software controls might impact that some. Guessing probably not much. To reach 1/2 charge the full rate will probably be applicable only above maybe 75% controls might mitigate or eliminate any advantage of added capacity.

With respect to the rate of SC deployment ..., aside from the benefits of real world testing with a smaller footprint, possible changes to hardware deployment at SC sites, and the logistics of selecting and acquiring adequate sites with available power ..., I also see pressures at the company level that will tend to contribute to a controlled deployment. Since I've been watching things in my mind it seems there is less tolerance for Tesla Motors to financially operate in the red and Elon has projected that TM will operate in the black going forward (so to speak). So SC deployment must be carefully balanced against other demands and seems to be at projected pace as @Kliest pointed out early in this thread.

Got my "PAY NOW" button ...,
so thinking won't be too much longer now :-)!

There is a way we can help ourselves. While it's not a Supercharger, the HPWC does provide 62 miles per hour of charge. My company is located very close to the intersection of I-70 and I-75 in Ohio. I decided to have my high power wall connector installed at the company instead of my home, and offer it for free to Tesla owners during business hours. We already have a free Level 2 charger. I just received my HPWC yesterday, and will be scheduling an electrician to install it next week. As soon as it is complete, I'll enter it into the DOE, Plugshare, and Recargo databases. Our business is off an I-75 exit ramp next to a McDonalds. We don't expect anything out of this except helping other Tesla owners.

I know this is not a Supercharger solution, but I think a grass roots HPWC effort could help fill some gaps.

It certainly can't hurt. Good thinking bro.

Something isn't right. Build-out does not mean suddenly they're there. They should be launching them as they build them.

The excuses here sound lame. Acquisition and approval for a minuscule footprint in someone's parking lot and connection to the grid should a piece of cake, in fact the great advantage over gas stations of el-car "refueling" infrastructure.

The SC maps are just sitting there. This is NOT a good thing. Prospective Tesla visiting Tesla's website expect to see SC growth



Tesla is dragging their feet when it comes to SC. There has to be reason like desire to conserve cash as long as there is demand for the MS. Or they are developing some other kind of SC technology and need time, like a faster charger. Or they got their hands full with ramping production.

Anyway, I see new fast food places pop up all the time some in the sticks at some truck stop. They do not seem to be having problems getting 3 phase hookups. Fab shops go up all the time and they use a lot of 440-480 VAC - it all hi amps direct from the step-down transformer.

We will find out soon.

@Bubba2000 - I have the feeling you will have eat your words soon...

+1 Kleist. ;-)

And I somehow do have the same feeling as Kleist does.

How soon?

Maybe even in a few days from now, as the 4th announcement regarding Superchargers is coming this week?

Feel free to do it yourself if its so simple lbjack, I'm sure Tesla would appreciate your efforts on their behalf.

I think you all misunderstand how a parking lot owner is going to see this. In St. Louis for the most part the restaurants that SCs would go in are always full and the business does not need an empty parking spot waiting for a Tesla to pull in. What is their incentive? More customers to the already waiting list?

My wife and I went to breakfast last Sunday and as usual had to wait 20-30 minutes. The parking lot was packed so I dropped her off at the door and park way down the street on the street. I would have been really annoyed if there was an empty spot labeled, "SUV parking only".

When the parking lot owners get a phone call and do not know who or what the company is that is calling why would they think it's a good deal for them?

It will happen but it is not going to be as easy to find places as one might think... on the West coast yes but not anywhere else.

Building out a supercharging station for 250K is great and all. But, what about the cost to run one? Doesn't that factor into the buildout schedule?

Are there attendants at these stations or it's left unattended and just monitored by cameras?

Elton tweeted today that the SC announcement will be next week and something else will be shared this week.

Elon indicated that production will be limited around 21,000 for all of 2013. They already sold about 5,000 MS. Another 5,000 MS will be headed to Europe. So, roughly 11,000 left for 9 month sales in the US, and these will be sold out without SC network.

At this point, Tesla has limited resources. They are focussed on optimizing design of the MS to facilitate automated production per the CC. Elon also indicated additional production investments, which I think must be equipment to further automate and increase production. All this will cost $$$ and Tesla has limited cash. I suspect that SC network deployment is going at a leisurely pace to conserve capital.

I think Tesla needs to use the priced stock to raise $500M. They could use $50-75M for a SC network in the US/Canada, $25M in Europe (small distances). Use the rest to deploy Model X.

Personally, I would prefer the Model X to have a 500 mile battery using the space in the Frunk an newer 4.0 Ah Panasonic Li-ion batteries. Don't need AWD, regular RWD motor, nor duck wing doors. Would pay $100-110k. I figure many hotels have charging outlets now. Anyway, range sells. Few wanted the 40KW-hr battery!

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