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Model S Replacement

I didn't know if this topic has been discussed so pardon me if so.

I was wondering what would happen if your Model S gets totaled in an accident or got stolen (less likely), would you have to be at the end of production line again? I think Tesla should give you a preference to jump back in queue and provide you with same or similar car.

I'm curious. Why do you think Tesla should allow a second-time owner to jump the queue? What's your reasoning for the increased priority? Depression avoidance?

That's the kind of problems which I tackle when I have them. Until then, I take care not to have the problem in the first place... ;-)

I think you might have to be leasing to get that kind of preference ...

Wow, what a nightmare. Can you imagine finally getting to enjoy your long awaited “S” - only to lose it…Then having to drive a shitty rental car for a year while you wait in line. Sounds too awful.

I suspect the “S” will be desirable for those seeking terminal joy rides rather than a quick trip to the chop shop. So, I support Volker.Berlin – avoid the problem and make sure you have GAP insurance.

Aside from a really bad rear ending that damages the motor, what it the car would make it unable to be driven if it were in an accident?

BYT;
How about a successfully crumpled "crumple zone" that saved the driver and passengers a few dozen Gs of decel?
8-O !!

Or sprung doors. Or twisted frame so the front and back wheels didn't point in the same direction. Or ...

I have seen a lot of those kinds of issues get fixed, I think the battery pack is so solid that it can take a side impact and be just fine (I would love to see crash test results from Tesla). The front end doesn't have much, it can get pulled back out, the whole top side of the car is basically for accommodating passengers and adding comfort. I know that as long as my Model S could run and I can't get it replaced in a year, I know where to go to get it as good as new again (or close enough to it).

Whoa! You're not a "glass half full" kinda person, are you? You don't even have a car yet, and you're worrying about replacing it after it's totaled! FYI: the owner who had his roadster with 400 miles on it, search for tesla prius toureg accident if you haven't seen it, waited 6 months for a replacement.

Teo;
Hm. Carbon fiber body, etc. Don't know if aluminum is lots easier to fix/replace or not, but it's not exactly your corner bodyshop kinda work, is it?

I wonder how soon rental agencies will acquire S rolling stock? Probably find it hard to keep them on the lot, of course...

;)

Hertz? Avis? Get with the program. Try harder!

Speaking of fleets, I wonder (aside from the Iceland dude) whether any fleet sales/reservations have been made. And if so, what configuration? Probably waiting for at least late '12, to get some performance/cost endurance data etc. on the table.

Not quite on subject but a thought on Brians H's rental comment...

I don't think I would rent an electric car while on vacation. There are no charging networks yet. It would have to be a Tesla with an 85kW battery and even then you'd have to be careful how far you drive. No good charging at 99.9% of the hotels to charge up with over night not even any resorts I've stayed at.... I can find a 120 volt plug but that's not near enough.

Residents having their car worked on would not have the plug in their garage to charge with unless they were an electric car owner. I personally wouldn't pay the extreme premium the rental company would charge.

And there aren't any Model S cars out there to rent, either.

Since we are off topic... for what it is worth Hertz DID rent electric cars at the Fremont (California) BART station many years ago. I assume they didn't do well as they didn't last long. [Yes, these were dopey electric cars with short ranges... the point being to be able to take BART to Fremont and then get to where you want to get to near by (and be able to have a rental car facility without having to deal with gasoline and oil on site).]

... and this BART station is about five miles from the then-NUMI now Tesla manufacturing facility. Was Hertz just ahead of their time?

"Hertz Says 'We Need More Electric Cars' After Year Of Rentals"
http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1067370_hertz-says-we-need-more-elec...

EdG:
I just hope that I wouldn't have wait so long or go buy another car in the time I'm awaiting my replacement S.

Teoatawki:
The same reason I would get full coverage on my Model S even though I might have paid cash for it or done with making payments. Uncertainties.

At the end of the day, I just want no disruption in the use of my car that I waited for so to be produced.

@bfadewole
EdG:
I just hope that I wouldn't have wait so long or go buy another car in the time I'm awaiting my replacement S.

So I gather that you would have no problems if a bunch of folks who happen to have accidents jumped in front of you while you were waiting for your first Model S?

Larry

I wouldn't mind letting someone who totaled their Model S cutting in front for a replacement. How many would total their car in a year? 10? 20? I have no idea but probably not even enough to delay your delivery even a day by the time the factory reaches full production.

If you are that accident prone or unlucky, consider another deposit for another “S.” I’d say $5K (refundable) for peace of mind is a bargain.

That is really cool Volker. It shows that people don't have the mileage phobia as bad as we think.

Altho, "Broome warned, it's his personal belief that it will take ranges of "close to 200 miles" before electric cars are suitable for the mass consumer market"

From what I read it's not residents or vacationers that are renting the cars. It's business men running shorter errands. Still it's really good news.

That "close to 200 miles" is amusing given that it means that even the cheapest Model S is in the ballpark.

ranges at a constant 55 mph don't mean much to me. In my mind i deduct 30% of stated ranges, and then you have to factor in yearly degradation as well.

@Sudre_: it's certainly true for me that, 90% of the time I rent a car on business, I don't put even 100 miles on it. Airport->hotel->client office->lunch->client office->dinner->hotel->airport is the typical trip (potentially iterate on the day-time activity a few times). So even a Volt would typically do fine. A 40kWh Model S would be a luxury.

Hopefully Hertz doesn't require that you bring back your EV with a full battery!

VB;
Hertz says it would take 2,000 if it could get them. So I expect Rich to plonk down $10,000,000 in deposits for 60kW Ses as soon as they are in production. And then probably the same a year later, plus another big wad for Xes shortly after that.

At about the same time, Avis and Budget and ...

;)

RB: Hertz will happily refill the battery for you for an exorbitant fee. :-)

Briefly, Hertz had a fair policy about returning a car short of gas; they charged a market rate for the gas plus something like $7, flat. I'm sure this was still profitable, but apparently less profitable, as they've reverted to their extortionate ways. I was running tight returning a car last week, and it cost something like $45 to buy a quarter-tank.

Chicago at this point is pretty electric car friendly for car renters if Hertz buys and puts them in this area. There are charging stations in many of Chicago's urban public parking garages that are owned/run by the bigger parking garage corporations--at least in the downtown area.

The other day I dove on a road where they were shoveling tar into potholes (Chicago area) and as I drove over it, well you know the sound of tar going all over your car, and all I could think about was how angry I would be if I was in my new model s! Then I realized its just a matter of time before the car has nicks, dings, etc... and then thought about how much the car is going to cost. Oh well thats life, but I never thought about it being wrecked beyond repair. I'm not going there.

Hopefully TM will make touch-up paint available for those unavoidable scratches and nicks.

Unavoidable scratches and nicks... Do you suppose my family will complain when I park .25 mile from the mall entrance?


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