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Upcoming Factory Visit - List of questions for Attendees

Since many of us forum members and lurkers will be living vicariously through the factory attendees, I thought it may be time to collect a list of questions and requests since we all are anxiously awaiting further details on the Betas.

(1) I'll start the list and ask for MORE PICTURES. Basically, as many as they will let you take. I find it frustrating to wait to see what the back seat looks like, the storage, the roof from the inside, etc.

(2) I'd also like to ask someone that is about 6'4" 250lbs to let me know what the headroom, legroom is like in the Beta. A comparison to another auto model would be very happy because this I can relate to. I understand Elon is about this height but from what I've seen he isn't built like a linebacker (or maybe more realistically closer to a lineman).

(3) I'd love to see a list of color combinations (interior/exterior) to be offered

(4) I'd love to see a list of standard and optional features. Like full glass roof, or audio.

Please add to this thread if there are specific things you are dying to see or find out about.

Thanks everyone,
Grant

Interior controls. Pictures are welcome, but things that can be controlled without that infotainment touchscreen are in special interest. Night options, will the screen dim or change color to red if needed? Winter test results? Studded tire options? Front license plate placement (you have to have that in here)? Infotainment UI, "mouse gestures" -type touchscreen? Voice commands? Steering wheel adjustments, seat height adjustments etc. sitting position settings?

Adding to that GrantO 2) shoulder space (should be enough, car is after all over two meters wide)

I'm curious about that middle console, the glove box, and...dare I say it...cupholders?

I'd like to know how the door handles will handle a good freezing-over. Will they be heated? Will they bust out with jackhammer strength and take no prisoners? Curious.

GrantO,

I'm the height and weight you mentioned and I'm planning on being there so I'll let you know. Headroom and elbowroom are a big deal for me in a car. I usually have to get one without a sun/moon roof because the top of my head touches. Amusingly, I sit taller than the roll bar in a Roadster. I'm hopeful for sufficient room in Model S. We'll see.

Michael

It sounds like there are a lot of us with similar questions. Thanks Michael about the offer for the report back on seating space - I had to laugh about the sunroof. I haven't been able to get one of those in a long time. Same issue.

Grant

In addition to Brad's mention of cup holders in the center console, I'm interested in seeing what is available for the back seats and the child seats. I'm more concerned about the main cabin than child seats at the rear since the latter probably won't be used in a longer trip (I imagine them being used more for shorter trips where you just want to stuff more people in one car). If the vehicle is used in a longer trip, the main cabin will more likely need to support people with food and drink.

I suppose with longer refueling (recharging) times, food and drink on longer trips would be more likely to fall in line with a recharge and therefore happen outside the car, but people often take their drinks with them after a meal and it would still be good to have cup holders in the back.

In addition to Brad's mention of cup holders in the center console, I'm interested in seeing what is available for the back seats and the child seats. I'm more concerned about the main cabin than child seats at the rear since the latter probably won't be used in a longer trip (I imagine them being used more for shorter trips where you just want to stuff more people in one car). If the vehicle is used in a longer trip, the main cabin will more likely need to support people with food and drink.

I suppose with longer refueling (recharging) times, food and drink on longer trips would be more likely to fall in line with a recharge and therefore happen outside the car, but people often take their drinks with them after a meal and it would still be good to have cup holders in the back.

In addition to Brad's mention of cup holders in the center console, I'm interested in seeing what is available for the back seats and the child seats. I'm more concerned about the main cabin than child seats at the rear since the latter probably won't be used in a longer trip (I imagine them being used more for shorter trips where you just want to stuff more people in one car). If the vehicle is used in a longer trip, the main cabin will more likely need to support people with food and drink.

I suppose with longer refueling (recharging) times, food and drink on longer trips would be more likely to fall in line with a recharge and therefore happen outside the car, but people often take their drinks with them after a meal and it would still be good to have cup holders in the back.

Good points, mwu.

You know what else I haven't seen much talk about? What kind of hardware will be running the main console touch screen? I've seen some discussion about the interface itself, but I'm curious as to what kind of processing power it'll have--hoping it won't feel draggy and slow by the time the car is released.

@Brad Holt,
They told us a while back that it would be an NVIDIA Tegra 2 powering the console.

Yea, as a software engineer, I'm pretty excited about the console -- I want to write software for it.

@mwu,
As a filmmaker, i can't wait to cock my head sideways and watch movies while I drive. :P

Lol, can't let that 1080p video playback processor go to waste now can we?

Seems to me that the most important thing to look at is the factory itself ( if they allow you into the Model S area). That will help those of us on the reservation list to assess when production might actually begin.

If any automotive or manufacturing engineers take the tour, take a hard look at elements of the assembly area. Is there a lot of empty floor space? Does equipment look operational? Are staff on-site and working on equipment setup? Is there any assembly going on? Do you see components of the Model S on the factory floor (e.g., body panels or suspension components or anything else)?

Any info on any of these things is just as important as many of the other good questions that have been suggested.

sofl;
Empty floor space? Acres. The NUMMI plant is a monster; Tesla and Toyota will probably be using 20% of it max to start.

Just a side note; the "price" of the plant and the $$ value of the Toyota investment are almost identical. So the plant is de facto Toyota's equity stake in Tesla.

sofl;
Empty floor space? Acres. The NUMMI plant is a monster; Tesla and Toyota will probably be using 20% of it max to start.

Just a side note; the "price" of the plant and the $$ value of the Toyota investment are almost identical. So the plant is de facto Toyota's equity stake in Tesla

As a telecom / tech guy, my concern has been about making sure the computer display doesn't become outdated before the car does.

I'm concerned that a 3G capability will be obsolete before the car ships.

There's got to be a technically savvy person on the tour who can get the straight scoop on this.

Good point DanD, I think a good question would be whether any of the console hardware itself is designed to be upgradeable (preferably an easy unplug, swap, reconnect upgrade) considering the speed of technology refreshes.

The wireless speed is probably the biggest concern in the next year or two. However, if you consider how slow an original iPhone is compared to an iPhone 4 in CPU and graphics speed, The car's onboard system is going to feel quite outdated rather quickly.

Especially if Tesla plans on releasing an SDK for the system, people will write apps that will start pushing the limits of the hardware and it would be very good to have a clean / easy upgrade path for the hardware as well as the software. On that note, I hope that they utilize a very solid OS that will not have stability problems in its core functionality if there are apps installed that crash...

I'll be looking at it pretty closely, Dan. It looks like I get to make the trip after all!!

I think the screen/computer has been my biggest concern so far. I'm hoping it's snappy and sexy enough for me to hold my sanity in the years to come.

In the back of my head I can't help holding out hope that the hardware will be somehow upgradable. Highly (almost definitely) unlikely, I know, but c'mon! A feature like that would add years to the life of the car! If you can change the battery in under a minute, why not pop a new tablet in there as well, right?

Anyway, yes. That screen and I have a date with destiny.

I actually read something recently online that said that the computer will be 4g compatible, and not 3g. That would be a good up to date system.

Someone should probably mention phone compatability. It hasn't been said that the S will be able to talk to our phones, but odds are it will, and we'll need to test which phones the car can and cannot talk to

"EV, Call Home!"

Third party apps for the infotainment system? I don't think so! All we need is some malicious code and the whole house of cards comes down! if this type of code gets into the management system it could be a disaster with the car going nowhere!

I'd like to know how much the car weighs. Closest I've come to learning that is the weight will be comparable to a BMW 5 series.

I'd like to know how much the car weighs. Closest I've come to learning that is the weight will be comparable to a BMW 5 series.

Yes, that's about all we know by now. At some point, the number 4000 lbs has been mentioned somewhere... There has been a discussion of this number in this thread:
http://www.teslamotors.com/forum/forums/why-s-so-heavy

(Don't get confused by the fact that the original poster in that thread confuses the Model "S" with the Roadster "Sport".)

I like to know how Tesla's purported en-route battery swapping is supposed to work. Will it work for any of the three optional battery pack configurations? I've seen the Better Place video showing the automated removal and installation of a battery pack in a small vehicle, but in this article John Voelcker presents some legitimate concerns regarding the feasibility of implementing these types of fast swapping schemes.

http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1020699_better-place-video-showing-e...

Perhaps a more pressing concern has to do with the approach to the recharging plug. Will it be “standardized” or proprietary? If standardized, which one? ;-) Will there be a second plug for fast charging? If so, how much will a fast charge reduce the expected life of the battery pack?

I would really appreciate a high res picture of the dashboard like the one in the Model S gallery.

I desperately need a new background on my computer screen to make the wait a little bit easier.

@ Ad van der Meer

I have seen you ask for this photo on a few threads. I took the Gallery interior pic and resized it for a 17" screen (and have it as my desktop). Size is 1920 x 1280. You can get it from my album here:

https://picasaweb.google.com/109300327896901037084/DropBox?authkey=Gv1sR...

If you have a smaller screen, let me know the resolution and I will resize it for you.

I'd like to know just how much room will be in the back with the jump seats (i.e. how large a child can fit). If it's possible to get pictures of the jump seats actually installed in the car that would be awesome!

Salman;
The seats are designed for <10-yr olds. Unless you have one of those 7-yr old 100 Cookie Monsters.
;)

typo: "100-lb. Cookie Monsters".
;p


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