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A VERY minor nitpick on turn signal, is it just me?

The turns signals location I am getting use to, but the number of 'auto' blinks bothers me. My Ford blinks ~5 times per touch, the Porsche, BMW and Audi seem to blink ~4 times. The Tesla blinks about 2.5 times which does not seem quite enough. I always want just one more blink to draw attention. The Ford is too much, but 4 seems right to me.

Is it just me? Seems like a very simple update if it isn't just me.

I believe Model S blinks 3 times. I, too, wish I could customize that and change it to 4 or 5. Blinkers are to be activated to give sufficient warning to the cars around you that you are changing lanes, and should remain blinking during the entirety of the lane change. Three blinks is not enough for that, IMHO.

In what context? Usually if I don't want to fully engage the blinker, but I want more than just 3 blinks, I keep light pressure on the blinker for a couple of blinks then let go. So if you want an extra blink just hold it for another second -- unless that's distracting?

Yes its just you.

It's just you ;-)

@mrdaniel, Your answer makes no sense at all. That feature is implemented to accomplish a certain function. People are pointing out that it doesn't accomplish that function, and your response is "Don't use that and do something different!" That is completely missing the point.

I also agree. It's three blinks, and I would like it to be about 5. I want about 2 before I move, to let people know, and then a little more as I actually move over into the other lane, which I'm not going to do in one second by yanking the wheel.

@Rocky_H: I see someone had to drive the ICE to work today.

No, all I was saying is when I want 3+x number of blinks I put a bit of pressure on it for x blinks and let go, and it will give me the result. It makes sense to me, because that's what I do!

Or, with all due respect, you could signal the way that I learned to drive 45 years ago in a '51 GMC pickup: just stick your arm out the window until you have completed your lane change! :) (Just a little levity, no malice intended!)

The # of blinks on the Tesla is the same as Mercedes which makes sense since they buy the steering wheel and controls from Mercedes. I am not sure Tesla could change it since it is probably built into the steering wheel circuitry.

My Porsche blinks 3 times too. Three times is usually enough. I just push it once more when needed.

If you haven't changed lanes by 3 blinks, you're not near Boston; or the space you were looking at would've been taken up.

If 3 blinks aren't enough, just engage the stalk fully until such time as you are where you want to be, then disengage it. My issue is that if I'm listening to slacker, it is a bit hard for my old ears to catch the blinker sound, so occasionally I leave it on longer than I intend.

@Rocky_H "I want about 2 before I move, to let people know,"

Where do you live? This will never work in the Bay Area freeways. And even more so in SoCal freeways the few times I was driving there. You have to be assertive and signal, accelerate and turn at the same time when you see the gap. Many people would accelerate and close in if you give them advanced warning. Most people will back off and let you in when they see the real action, not just signal, though. I think they just don't want a timid driver to get ahead of them who turns out to be one of those "road boulders".

NYKYTA +1.

you could just turn the signal on completely.... and turn it off when it has blinked enough times and you have completed the lane change. Problem with auto blinkers is if you change your mind and try to turn it off it auto blinks the other way. Confuses people.

@mrdaniel: Quit being an ass. I know exactly how to use that workaround, and that's what I do, because the auto-turning blink doesn't accomplish what it's supposed to. Jeez! What is wrong with you people? We all know the other ways to turn on the turn signal for longer periods of time.

@Salute: Hmm, I hadn't thought of that. It may be somewhat hard-coded and not customizable because of that.

@carlk: Yes, I have noticed that difference about where you are. I live in Boise, where turning on your turn signal usually results in people making room for you, because people are nice here. When we go to visit my father-in-law and are driving in the Detroit area, though, you don't dare turn on your turn signal ahead of time, because everyone's reaction is always to speed up suddenly to close that gap to make sure you can't get in, because drivers are assholes there. I suspect it is that way in most really big cities.

I guess carlk's comment does explain why so many of you like it with only 3 blinks. In the big cities, you're using it only because you have to do it to comply with the law, but are avoiding at all costs turning it on before you are actually starting to move into the other lane to avoid someone noticing and cutting you off.

The 3 blink function is for a blitz lane change. If it takes you more then 3 blinks time to complete then it's the wrong function to use or a wrong move to make. I don't always know what I'm talking about, it's just an educated guess. Please don't jump on me.

@carlk - interesting, as my Porsche 997 definitely blinks one more time.

In San Diego people must be calmer as I like to touch the turn signal to let people know I am about to change lanes, the way to turn signal thing is suppose to work. In racing, we teach smoothness, so I am use to planned, well telegraphed changes, not darting around.

I just like the extra blink every car I have owned for the last 5+ years has done. Clearly not a major issue and yes there are numerous obvious work arounds. It is just a nice touch, and I wondered if others thought an 'extra' blink or two would be better. Doesn't appear to be a clear consensus.

Thanks for input, I won't make a software change suggestion unless the input changes.

My old BMW M5 auto-blinked 3 times, same as my Tesla. Works for me.

@JAD: I have no idea if the function is hard-wired -- it would be odd if it is -- but the computer processes the signal to display it, and so it is possible Tesla is able to look at the data to find out whether people would be better off with more blinks when making actions. As I noted above, it depends on context, too. It just seems like another optimization on a long list of optimizations. Thanks for raising the point, though.

I agree, 3 blinks is too short to give proper notice that you are looking to change lanes. However, just push the stalk all the way down and presto, you get as many blinks as you want. By that I mean lift it up when it has blinked enough for you. Also, I don't know that this feature was intended for lanes changes. I think it was made for exiting rotaries which Europe is full of.

@Rocky_H It's not just to comply with the laws but the signal, kind of like brake lights, does give people a good warning even when it happens at about the same time as the car's motion change. On the other hand you should see how many drivers here who don't signal, one of my biggest pet peeves on the road.

@JAD My Cayman S only needs to blink three times because it's a more agile car. ;-)

I, too, agree with the OP. In fact, I sent directly to Tesla the suggestion to make the number of blinks adjustable to one's driving style. For mine, I'd like to have 5 blinks. To me, signaling is supposed to indicate what I'm about to do, not justify what I'm already doing. With this car's acceleration, even if a jackass tries to close up a gap after I signal, I can get in without incident, unless it's a gap I shouldn't be taking in the first place. The safest, most assertive technique in traffic - and the one that discourages "gap closers" most, is a good squeeze of the accelerator with a blink or two warning that I will change lanes, followed by three or so blinks while I smoothly complete the lane change without having to yank the car into the gap.

I don't think mrdaniel was being an ass. The OP makes a good point in the original question, and there are some people who will read this thread who wouldn't necessarily come up with the workaround of holding lightly for a second or two, then letting up.

It seems that there are a lot of specific customization requests that people want. Tesla had to make some decisions. This was one of them.

At some point in the future, thye may allow us to customize more of this stuff, but for now, I think we have to just enjoy the car as it is.

Who uses blinkers anyway?

@VIN
My horse

It's official. There is obviously nothing further to discuss about this car. I would like the last few minutes of my life back.

Bighorn. Sorry, forgot about that, no offense to your horse. I only use mine when I am in a left-hand turn lane, with a left-hand stoplight and a large left turn arrow marked on the street. That way, nobody will wonder what I am intending.

@Rocky_H
I am reading mrdaniel's post and I don't think he is being an ass. Your responses, on the other hand......

@Bighorn
Did you mean "blinders" on your horse?

@PB

No, but some people might...

http://www.etsy.com/listing/118968831/race-horse-blinkers?utm_source=goo...

Blinders are your high beams.

Just want to add three (or four) blinks seem to be an European only thing, or at least it was an European only thing. Most Japanese cars I've driven don't have the feature. You can lightly press to blink but it stops soon as you let go. I was pleasantly surprised when I found out MS has the three blinks feature.

Acrually I agree, three is too short and five would be great - if it's software controllable then a setting mneu option would be very appreciated.

I don't suppose any other car forum would debate this kind of stuff because once the car was bought it would never be possible to change.


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