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More active safety features coming to Model S!

Page 33 of the European Model S manual includes a screen shot showing a toggle for "Blind Spot". Implementation of this and other features must not be far behind... here's to the retrofits being affordable, hopefully Tesla will try to keep the costs down in the name of safety so more existing owners can add these to their cars. I read a few months ago that Tesla was partnering with Mobileye to develop autonomous features, I wonder if this is the fruit of some of that labor?

Apparently the manual also includes a fuse listing, one of which is for "vanity lights". Is Tesla finally going to make good on George's promise?

Where in that screen shot of a nav screen do you see anything related to park assist or blind spot?

Look at the large screen shot of Settings, then the second row of Active Safety sliders...

Ahhhhhh duh!!! my bad. I was looking at the "buttons" along the top of the screen.

Looks like someone over at TMC magically received an "Ionizer" feature after his car was in service...

Link to TMC thread

I also noticed that the euro spec MS has rear fog lights.

rear fog lights are a requirement over there and personally I think they should be on all cars.

Good to hear and it would be nice if those features are on the Model X when get delivered next year but personally would not pay to retrofit either feature to my Sig Model S. Have had blind spot warning in Volvo XC60 for past 5 years and it is useless to pick up a car quickly accelerating from behind in the adjacent lane which is the real danger when changing lanes. Lulls one into false sense of security, I no longer even bother with it, you really need to actually turn to look over your shoulder before changing lanes as taught in driver's ed. The parking assist is nice in cars for backing up but with the rear camera in Model S showing the edge of rear bumper I find not needed.

Instruments make life easier, but don't forget how to fly.

My Model S, which was delivered on June 25 in CA, has park assist chimes. I ordered the Park Assist and the chimes are included. They are also referenced in the current (V5.9) U.S. Owner's Manual on page 52.

What's new about "Park Assist Chimes"? They come with the optional Parking Sensors, on top of the optional Tech Package, and aren't a Future Feature at all. Our car has them, and the exact same on/off setting for them shown in the screen shot.

Now, blind spot warning would be a nice addition. It'll be interesting to see how Tesla implements it - some kind of warning on the outside mirror, or just on the dash? Audible as well as visual warning? And why would anyone want to turn off blind spot warning?


Surely the long term solution to all these 'problems' - ie blind spot; parking; rear view etc - would be to have a 180deg rear facing camera at high level displaying on a long strip monitor above the windscreen (where the normal mirror is).

This would give an uninterrupted view of the whole area behind the drivers line of sight with a swift glance like we use for rear view mirror - no blind spots at all. A low level rear camera could still be used for clarity directly behind the car for garages; kids; animals etc when reversing.

I saw a preview of a Nissan (?) proposal for using such a monitor and camera instead of a mirror but stupidly it only displayed the normal mirror view!! Waste of a good opportunity which Tesla could grab. Would actually make the rear window 'redundant'...!!!

@GuyDormehl Would actually make the rear window 'redundant'...

Redundant but not obsolete. Redundancy is critical when dealing with safety systems.

OK JT I was being provocative.....the passengers may want to peer out too. And it lets in nice light.

I only mean that if the system worked well the driver would never need to 'look over his shoulder' or out of the rear windows/back side windows. They would have complete visual clarity of all in front and all around behind by looking forward and shifting the eyes.

I'd like that - I hate guessing whether I have missed something in an awkward spot!

@Guy OK JT I was being provocative.. It worked. Mark me down as provoked! :-)

One early iteration of Model X had cameras for side view mirrors. I thought that would have been a good first step to what you would like to see implemented. Didn't seem to pass muster, though.

Don't think side cameras instead of mirrors would work anyway as there would still be the same blind spots as with mirrors - that is why I suggest a high level central camera with a 180 deg view over the car. The car may still need (now redundant!) side mirrors (of minimal size) to comply with legislation!

@GuyDormehl: I agree. This would also help immensely in tight parking garages. This may not be that important for those in areas that are not as built up but in congested cities with tight parking garages and curbs all over the place the 360 view would be really useful.

@J.T: Unless I am mistaken the e-mail sent from Tesla for Model X reservation holders recently still shows a Model X without side view "mirrors." Maybe they are still hoping for a change in law by the time the Model X comes out?

@WEB_SRFR Thanks for the info. I certainly hope they get to build the car they way they want. At this point I think a lot of us trust them more than some regulatory agency.

"here's to the retrofits being affordable"

Yeahhh.... about that...

While slightly off topic - side view cameras in place of mirrors runs into a US requirement issue that all cars must have side mirrors. Likely some regulation created 50 years ago or more. Tesla and others have been trying to get this changed, but so far, the regulations are still in place so Model X with mirrors is likely.

Rear fog lights on the European Model S just means one of the back-up lights is re-purposed for the the fog lamp. There is no additional lights added.

@GuyDormehl Side camera can have much wider angle than side mirror to cover any blind spots. A dummy side mirror? I wonder what the regulation says about minimum size.

Typically how long does it take after the features show up on the owners manual for them to be put into production?

I'm waiting on the blind spot detectors before ordering my Tesla.

(yes I know how to turn my head and yes I know not everyone likes/needs this option...) - Rear fog lights are meant to make the car more visible to the drivers behind. They are red, much brighter than the regular rear lights, or even stop lights. They can be a pair, or a single one, but always additional.

Backup lights are white, illegal to use while moving in the forward direction.

Carlk - by logic (?) and definition two side mirrors will always have blind spots and, unless the whole image is displayed, it is fragmented and 'difficult' to read accurately.

One still constantly worries that there is something hidden. Although I have my mirrors set so that there is (theoretically!) no blind spot, I still cannot emotionally rely on it and still turn to look.

One would grow to trust a full continuous 180 deg view....

@Tiebreaker - Thanks. I've tried to find a photo with the Model S rear fog light on, but after 10 minutes of searching I couldn't find one. Maybe a European owner can snap a photo of what it looks like!

By the way talking about antiquated legislation - I understand that Taxis in London - ie Hackney Carriages - were required by law for many years (still?) to carry a bale of hay and to have less than 5w side lights (so they didn't frighten the horses...)

Lawmakers seem to either get stuck in the past OR spend an inordinate amount of time thinking up useless legislation to justify their existence!!

@GuyDormehl: Imagine what those 5W can do now with CRE lighting :)

The regulatory agencies in the US really need to get with the times. I remember when Mercedes came out with adaptive headlights that automatically adjust continuously to prevent oncoming drivers from being dazzled by the glare even that was not allowed for a while.

@Pettifogger; blind spot warning: car will announce, in Billy Crystal's voice, "HEY STUPID! THERE'S SOMEONE IN YOUR BLIND SPOT!"

@thranx: It's not as much of a trivial feature as some make it out to be. You could check your blind spot move you attention elsewhere and just as you are changing lanes, someone out of nowhere can occupy what you thought was a clear spot. The benefit of the blind spot system is not just to inform you when you check but to constantly keep an eye out for you. I hope when this feature is added it is added with an active collision prevent assist system like what Mercedes has. Basically if you try to switch lanes and a car appears where you are going, the car will physically break one of the wheels to yank you back into your lane to prevent a collision.

Again this is not because people don't necessarily know how to drive or are not paying attention but in the two seconds after you check your blind spot, another driver may make a reckless lane change and be where you thought was a safe spot to change lanes. An active system with collision prevention would be useful in such a situation.

I believe the rear fog lights are actually one brake light on in most vehicles. Everyone tells me I have a light out when I use them on my other cars. (Though use is VERY rare in San Diego...)

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