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Wanna know why I bought the ELR and not the Model S?

Pretty simple....I put together two orders, after researching both cars, and looked at cost. The S was going to come in north of $105K and the ELR around $80k. The S was a barn burner 0-60 but most urban driving is done 0-40 and the ELR had plenty of torque in that range. Never worried about racing an S, Prius or Honda Accord from a light...I wanted comfort, handling, decent mpg and something that I wasn't going to see 25 of every day. Is the S a nice car?...absolutely. Does it stretch the performance envelope for an electric car?...for sure. Would it create range anxiety for me since I do a lot of highway driving?...unquestionably.

The Model S came in second place...pure and simple...on my little "how will it fit in my lifestyle" survey. I have had the ELR now for over 4000 miles and I can state honestly that I am very happy with the ELR and its build/design, performance and price(as I compared...apples to apples).

No disrespect to all the S model members here...and yes, it is sad that GM has not supported the ELR with a strong marketing campaign that would have helped it gain an identity different from both the Volt and the Model S...but if I had it to do all over again I would still buy the ELR.

Bright side--you'll never, ever have to worry about seeing 25 in a day--or perhaps a lifetime...

Of course. This is a great place to post this. I spend most of my time on the ELR Forum telling people all about why I bought the Model S.

I think it's even cooler that you bought one of the two ELRs they are selling each day. It makes you special.

There are many reasons the Model S became my choice, but the foundational reason is that I wanted a pure electric vehicle with no engine, no gas, none of that. That drastically narrows the field, and since my other requirement was that it could be my ONLY car, that pretty much left the Tesla as the only BEV with decent range.

We all have different priorities and preferences, so I hope your ELR keeps you happy for many years! And, as I sit here looking at my September date, there is that 'instant gratification' benefit you had too. :)

The S was a barn burner 0-60 but most urban driving is done 0-40 and the ELR had plenty of torque in that range.

Compromise.

Never worried about racing an S, Prius or Honda Accord from a light

Those are about the only cars you can out-accelerate from a red light in an ELR. Model S owners talk about racing BMWs, Porsches, Lambos, and Astons. More compromise.

I wanted comfort, handling, decent mpg and something that I wasn't going to see 25 of every day.

MPG is something only an ELR owner would have to worry about. Why add to your plate?

Would it create range anxiety for me since I do a lot of highway driving?...unquestionably.

You must be talking about the ELR's 40 mile EV range?

I have had the ELR now for over 4000 miles and I can state honestly that I am very happy with the ELR and its build/design, performance and price(as I compared...apples to apples).

That's not possible. If Model S is an apple, ELR is a fruit rollup.

it is sad that GM has not supported the ELR with a strong marketing campaign that would have helped it gain an identity different from both the Volt and the Model S

While Tesla's Model S flies off the shelves without any formal marketing campaign. I went to YouTube to search for commercials created by ardent ELR fans. I couldn't find any. I wonder why?

but if I had it to do all over again I would still buy the ELR.

And you are here, why? I don't post about my Model S ownership experience at an ELR forum. Why are you in a Model S forum discussing your ELR? Surely this is a waste of time, right?

GM employee troll?

Bighorn: Exactly. I enjoy the rarity of the car while I enjoy the car. And I can honestly say I see more 458's in a day than I do ELR's.

Thomas N.: As stated, no disrespect to either S owners or members. And "being special' has nothing to do with either car now does it? It is all about where you want to spend your money, how you want to spend it and what you expect when you do. Most forums need alternative opinions to exist or they just become fanboy havens for those experiencing insecurities while creating feel good threads. I like the looks, drive ability and performance of the Model S. I did not like the price or lack of first world accoutrements that the Cadillac carriedl that the S does not. I sincerely hope the ELR finds a market base so that the car can evolve. Tesla should feel the same as it will certainly inspire some creative competition in a market that, so far, has been hard to identify without attaching the word "fad" to it.

OK, let's see, $15,000 difference, I can get a Tesla rather than 1/2 ice and 1/2 EV. Hmmm

I sincerely hope the ELR finds a market base so that the car can evolve.

Good luck with that.

Enjoy your purchase.

Glad to hear that at least one ELR sold.

You said your cost analysis was "pretty simple" illustrated by your comparing of MSRPs. Did you happen to drill down any into TCO? You might be surprised by the results.

@amped, life is about compromises. It's a sign of immaturity when you think one shouldn't accept them. I exempt morality from that statement.

@tommy, he said he'd researched both cars. I assume he was trying to present an alternate view from somebody who had done so; I doubt many here have spent time researching the ELR. His view won't be the popular one here but whatever.

OP said he chose the car because it suited his decision making process. Sounds cool to me. I doubt Tesla will go out of business over it.

I mean no disrespect for ELR owners, but I am sure old PT would love you.

@VIN
I wonder if that's how they got the name PT Cruiser?

redacted: Excellent post and could not be more dead on. How many folks on this forum have driven the ELR?. Not looked at it, read about it and then made their decision....how many have actually experienced it? The internet forums are all about folks that become very opinionated by reading and not doing. Pretty unfortunate but it is what it is. Will the ELR become GM's Edsel? I doubt it? Will it create so much as a dent in Elon's plan? Absolutely not...cars and space for that guy! Will the ELR prevent what is becoming known in many circles as Tesla Arrogance...no way....selling one a day of ANYTHING hardly even shows up on ANY marketing radar. So...bottom line is the S provides a position in the US auto markets that no other car can claim. And that will remain that way until other cars do start to claim positions against the Tesla...which I believe Cadillac was/is trying to do with the ELR...they just ain't doin' it too good!

Would have been so cool if no one responded to the OP.

Bighorn. No, that one stood for "Profoundly Terrible".

@JT
My bad?

@ redacted - There are two kinds of compromise in my world. One type of compromise is where two sides give and take in order to make a deal. The other is where I have to lower my standards in the absence of other options. I am loathe to do the latter, which is why Model S is such a big win for me. Purchasing my Model S represents a pinnacle of achievement not just in EV design and manufacturing, but also in my life. Buying this car isn't about compromise, it's about giving myself the best of something because I deserve it. You don't treat yourself to compromise, do you?

I think hearing an alternative opinion is refreshing and important. Like he said, if you surround yourself with only like-minded people and opinions then you end up with a skewed perspective. If you never hear something different how can you ever try to be objective?

I still think the ELR/Volt has a clever way of using an electric motor + generator. Most daily drives could be accomplished with just the battery. That being said, I'm still getting a Model S, but I recognize there are still limitations to a pure EV--especially when it comes to longer trips. I don't live in California or New York so I'm not surrounded by superchargers, or even other EV chargers (yet). There's a few places we drive to that just won't be practical with our MS until there are more charging options (so we'll be taking our ICE for those trips).

So there is an ELR forum! A quick Google search found this:

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-elr-forum/

Get a load of the first 15 thread titles! And I thought THIS place was rough on the Model S. I don't think there's a positive post there.

I didn't notice and Tesla posts but maybe I'll join and start one or two. ;)

I am glad to hear of a dissenting opinion. I hadn't viewed the ELR as a Model S competitor, but to the OP it was.

One can only wish that GM believed in the ELR as much as the OP did.

@ waterboy,

Don't you have to put gasoline into an ELR in order to get a range above 40 miles? If so, that rules it out of consideration for me. I don't need to drive it to know that I'm not willing to make that compromise. Tesla Arrogance? That's a new one. Why do you equate arrogance - which is an exaggeration of one's sense of self importance - with Tesla owners? Do you really find us self important, or just picky? There's a difference.

Good luck taking it to a dealer who's just waiting to sell you parts and stuff you don't need to support his bottom line!

@waterboy, As a 45 year car and motorcycle guy who has collected, restored and enjoyed many wonderful mechanical works of art you could not pay me to own mechanical messes like the Volt and it's repackaged step sister the ELR. Talk about building the Rube Goldberg of transportation. A mediocre EV combined with a mediocre ICE. All crammed into a car that looks like an angry kitchen appliance.

I am just giving you my personal opinion. I personally have zero interest in dragging that much machinery and complexity with me everywhere I go. I think a more logical decision would be to own a Leaf for your local driving and a road car for highway driving. At least that way you would not be dragging around batteries that are useless on road trips and an full ICE on local trips.

It's the old mechanics adage I was taught at age sixteen when I first started working on cars. Use the proper tool for the job. The ELR is like buying one of those combination tools as the only tool in your box. Yea it will work but it's sure not the best way to get much done well.

So I am glad that you are happy with the car. To each his own. But I have to say I have absolutely no interest in a Volt/Ewhatever it is.

AmpedRealtor: Congratulations on your accomplishments. Compromise never entered my mind with the ELR. Actually, the two cars represent different ways of looking at one's automotive needs. Fact is that the first month I had the ELR I spent zero dollars on gas and was able to plan my standard work days "around" the limited battery range where the S does not have to do that. However, when I travel to my plant (300 miles one way) I do not have to plan on multiple charging stops or making sure that there are chargers in a spot that will allow me to spend some time in comfort, outside of the car, while I wait for it to juice up. Unfortunately, my life does not revolve around an aor of 250 miles give or take. As a matter of fact, during my trips I rarely see an S either going or coming. I would be interested in seeing just how someone plans a 600 mile trip around a set of charging stations that allows one to enjoy the journey as much as the destination.

Again, for all the forward archers on this forum, these thoughts are mine and mine alone and are not meant to disparage Tesla or its cars.

If you are happy with your decision why do you feel the need to post here. Just enjoy your car. I have zero interest in it. And yes I have read the specs and seen the car. Even less interest after seeing the specs.

Since nobody has actually answered the OP's question, I will:

"No."

So for the first month you never exhausted the 40 mile range on the EV portion of the car and never spent a penny on gas? Why spend $75K on the ELR then? You could have leased a Leaf for $199 a month or bought one for $25K and used the spare $50K to rent a car for the 6 trips you take to the plant a year.

To each their own. I read through a few of the posts on the owner's forum - and these are from Cadillac purists according to their signatures with owned vehicles listed. Not too much positivity there.

I wish you the best.

Lol I can't imagine some of you even bother to respond. I'm willing to give up driving my MS for one day if op is remotely sincere.

Roamer: Thanks for your comments...seemed to be built on experience. We are more than likely close to the same age and have a lot of the same background. Having to buy two cars to do the same job is like buying two identical wrenches when you really only need one. I am sure you learned that when you priced your first mechanics kit. The Ewhatever is really a pretty nice car and I wonder what the general populace of the internet would be saying if they had priced the car at $50K instead of the $75K. One can buy a $70K Model S or a $100k+ Model S which is a huge price swing for very little performance capture that the standard, non-racing, general auto buyers can use.


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