So....No one is commenting that 1....The BMW didn't start at the same time for ONE.....
but 2 and more importantly..The M5 wasn't using Launch control, which drastically reduces it's standing start acceleration figures.....
@ Volker - fair enough
@ Drifster - I think we did touch on that in the last couple of posts but I would like your thoughts on the Inside line track test. I believe it offers a more objective comparison. Ultimately, I'm of the belief that they are both great cars. I simply prefer a great car that does not require gas.
Timo was talking about the GIII→Roadster, i.e. the new Roadster to be built on the GIII skateboard. It will have little else in common with it, and will probably outperform the current Roadster.
I personally have no doubt as to the cars capabilities. Numbers alone lend it great credibility in terms of performance. But numbers also are the counterargument towards some of these tests results either having large margins of error that are unaccounted for or unreferenced or simply being skewed deliberately.
Those asside, in the grand scheme of things looking at a "performance automobile"; you're faced with the same gargantuan difference. The market is dominated by BMW, Porsche and AMG; 3 companies that have been in the segment for a very very long time and have hammered out every last detail that comes along with making a heavy powerful car handle as deliberate and effective as possible.. Tesla's new, so that's going to transfer without question to their products. There's only so much you can learn by running simulation and crunching numbers before you need to put the rubber on the road and get feedback, and givin this is Tesla's maiden release into the segment it's of course going to be a few steps behind in those respects...
So did they get acceleration right? yeah FOR the product of course..Handling, braking, and driver feel/feedback? That'll take some work without question which is where the differences will be the most glaring. But BACK on the subject of just PURE acceleration, if you're going to compare a car that has peak power production at 1RPM it's silly to compare it to a car that doesn't have it's peak power at the rpm you're going to start it at when that RPM is availible for use (ie launch control).. You might as well compare a v8 to a V10 and plug the intake ports on 2 of the cylinders on the v10 then say the v8's the clear winner. By not using the BMW's launch control, theyve all but deliberately handicapped the car.
Tesla Motors took something as complex as a car with an Internal Combustion Engine and simplified it and in the process made it a hell of a lot better.
Kinda like what they did with NASA, took a mufti-billion dollar space budget to send stuff to the space station and simplified it to make it so we can do the same thing for penny's on the dollar in comparison.
It's hard for the layman to understand but like Elon Musk, I'm just trying to simplify the concept for you Driftster. ;)
This is not comparing apples to apples, this is comparing Rolex to Sundial. For a lack of a better analogy that is.
By they in the second paragraph, I meant SpaceX.
So....No one is commenting that 1....The BMW didn't start at the same time for ONE..... but 2 and more importantly..The M5 wasn't using Launch control (Driftster)
I did, in this thread one page back.
Ultimately, I'm of the belief that they are both great cars. I simply prefer a great car that does not require gas. (jaq1)
@petero, I have always considered GenIII more a platform than a car. Their affordable car is build on GenIII platform, but that platform can be used for several different models.
So "affordable" car will be GenIII, but also next Roadster will be GenIII.
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