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CENTER CONSOLE - OR LACK THEREOF...

Do anybody know if the center console design in the current beta version is going to be what is in the final production car? This is the biggest disappointment for me with regards to the interior of the car. That empty space in the center makes the car's interior look like a minivan and cheap in comparison to other luxury cars. I really hope this is not the final design for the center console.

I'd be very happy with a close variant of the pre-Alpha prototype interior (shown in @mwu's photo) and VERY unhappy if the Beta interior or a close variant of it becomes final.

The final interior interior design will be the true indicator of whether Tesla has listened to its reservation holders as the Beta evolves into a production car.

Well, I like the Beta interior. I wouldn't say no to a well-designed *removable* center console box/cupholder though. Make everyone happy?

I wouldn't be surprised if they are working on a complete interior redesign.

Did anyone notice how few interior pictures there are of the Model S on the Tesla website? I could find only one, and none in the Model S gallery.

The only thing sure about the interior seems to be that it will have a 17" touch screen.

I don't doubt a redesign, but what surprises me is that if they do, they placed photos on their site and have been allowing people to sit in an unfinished car which they were very careful not to allow for the alpha they toured around. When I asked about why, they stated that it was unfinished and were afraid of the very reaction they got when they released photos and allowed people to sit in the betas.

mwu, my explanation is that in case of the Betas, they wanted customer reaction as input for the final design, whereas they had no use for customer feedback regarding the Alpha interior because they already knew they would do something completely different.

Hmm, good point Volker.

With only one more shot at it, I hope it's all they need.

@V.B.: ... they wanted customer reaction as input ...

And they got it! The response to the beta interior was overwhelming negative. There was also a consistent theme to the constructive criticism that was provided on this and other forums. I just hope that TM listened and that the interior redesign will be as impressive as the final exterior design.

Sorry ... overwhelming --> overwhelmingly

Really do need an edit feature.

I definitely think that Tesla uses these forums for feedback. I think there are a number of issues that are heavily discussed in here that feed back into the design. I think V.B. listed a few somewhere, but air suspension (and at a good price too might I add), increased nominal ground clearance, the horrible nose cone (still not as nice as the pre-alpha prototype), making the rear facing seats optional, and some others have all gotten into the real design, and I give them big kudos for using the forums for that. I wish more companies would do this sort of thing. I think we would all end up with better designed everythings!

Or they're ignoring the forums and just coming up with their own designs. After all, we still don't really like that nose. If only it had another chrome dividing stripe in it. :(

I think on the nose, we didn't offer any real suggestions of our own. They improved it over the Alpha for sure, or you would be hearing about it a lot in here! I just wish they would improve the forums (search, edit, private messaging, oh and SEARCH).

Leo;
Yeah, search and edit would be good, too. ;)

Did you see the (horizontal) 19" screen design in the SIM video? Not projecting, embedded in the dash. Of course, it's a small cockpit, so reaching it isn't a problem.

Will it please all of the people all of the time? Of course not! Should it? Nope.

These forums do act like a small sample focus group, but they also are a little bit extreme in cases. There will be limitations which we simply are not aware of; safety, manufacturing, cost, reliability, weight, etc. Nonetheless, I like to think they do mine these for reactions. However, that a suggestion is posted here doesn't make it a good idea or a viable idea. They need to make that call.

Besides, if it were up to the forum community we would have a wind turbine under the grill with a small petrol engine in the boot, solar panels on the roof, doors that open up like a Delorean, a self destruct mechanism, flux capacitor, dilithium chamber and an iPad docked in the center console. Oh, and it would have a vegan interior and zero carbon footprint exterior.

So far I'm impressed with the results of whatever their method is for developing the product. Seeing as they are Silicon Valley based I'm sure they are doing many iterations starting with a minimally viable product option then incrementally improving to a final product. It is how modern product development is done.

@Mike - I do believe that the forum self selects the good/bad ideas too. Each wind turbine, solar panel thread gets addressed by the group, and while ejection seats did seem to receive a pretty good group response, they might lead to losing the 5 star safety rating, so I think that trumped it in Tesla's view.

I'll opt out of the self-destruct, and then my hobby project becomes learning how to tell other Model S vehicles to engage the feature.

There can be only 1!

The good ole "[Alt-F4] clears all viruses from the computer" types of educational program, brianman?

Heh.

Getting back to the topic, I just sat in a beta and found that if I had something in a cup holder, I couldn't rest my are on the center console. Also, the holders seemed too far back to easily reach the drink.

Bingo. Hate those. Am very much looking forward to a real interior.

IMO, until the production cars are out, it's almost counter-productive to even consider the beta interior.

I just wish they would improve the forums (search, edit, private messaging, oh and SEARCH). (Leofingal)

Sign here:
http://www.teslamotors.com/forum/forums/tesla-we-need-search-google-does...
("private" thread)

Did so long ago - thanks

Hyundai's honeycomb concept "Concept Car":
http://www.gizmag.com/hyundai-hexa-space-concept/21017/

8 seats, any and all of which can fold flat (even the driver's for overnite camp-outs). Not an electric, but would be compatible with a Model X frame. Smaller and narrower. This image from the Gallery in the article gives a good overall idea:

No center console. Target market is Asia, large family daily transport.

Went to the tech talk at Tesla Menlo park yesterday, and had a Tesla rep adamantly say that the center console is not coming back. So for those of you holding your breath for the return of the alpha/prototype dash, I think you can exhale.

Personally I like the beat interior, and lack of center console so I'm not disappointed by that. But I agree that a third-party removable "tray" that goes in the space could be cool.

One other thing I noticed (this has nothing to do with the center console): There isn't much headroom in the back seat. I'm only 6'-0" tall, but if I sat up straight, my head hit the pano roof very uncomfortably (and I can imagine what would happen if we hit a bump unexpectedly). In fact, my 5'-4" wife who has a bad back and sits perfectly straight also had her hair grazing the roof. Not something that's going to get "fixed", but just a head's up that you'll need to slouch to fit in the back seat pretty much whatever your size.

that's "beta" interior, not "beat" interior. Damn you Tesla forums and your lack of "edit" functionality.

Talked to the Tesla rep in Bellevue the other week, and he chuckled "well, maybe aftermarket". So I might have to pimp my ride. It's a shame.

When I saw the X reveal, it kind of finished off any hope. They took the S Beta dash and carried on with the same "floating in-mid air" design. Perhaps it makes more sense in a cross over. I think a sedan would be a bit more driver friendly with well placed storage, and an integrated look to the interior, but I guess not.

So based on what I saw on the X, I'd say, no center console on the S.

Frankly, it would make a nice option. Make it removable. If people would shell out 250 for that rear shelf cover, I think we'd all pay twice that for a console option.

Strangely, I got a difference answer at Menlo Park today. I was told specifically that there would be a change to the center console, and we would get real cup holders.
So I think very few people at Tesla really know the whole truth.

So I think very few people at Tesla really know the whole truth. (David den Boer)

That's really the only thing I take for granted so far.

Maestrokneer, thank you for your observations regarding the limited head room in the back row. Not surprising, given the extremely aerodynamic form factor, but of course not as luxurious as many would like. It's still an unanswered question whether the panorama roof offers more or less head room than the regular roof. If there is a difference, that may be the deciding factor for or against panorama roof for me.

@volker
At the Florida store, they told me normal roof would have less headroom than pano roof. Sort of makes sense - the padding that a normal roof has would cause less interior space. Probably only talking about 1"-2" - but still less.

harryjsommer, thank you for sharing!


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