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Finally Something to Hate About the Model S!

I have had my P85 for 6 months, and I have finally found something bad to say about it: owning the Model S has made me dislike my Ferrari and every other car I once loved. I paid nearly $250,000 for the Ferrari and now I don't really want to drive it. After being in the Tesla, the Ferrari is loud, cramped, primitive, and stressful to drive. In fact, all my ICE vehicles now feel so archaic compared to the Model S. Starting up a car's engine now seems like an asinine waste of time (and oxygen!). Waiting for a drivetrain to "warm up" is now bewildering. Having to work the engine and transmission through revs and gears (even with a 7-speed dual-clutch transmission) was once a pleasure -- not it is just frustrating. The existence of gas stations now seems completely moronic (refuel overnight in the comfort of your own garage!). The Ferrari once felt blisteringly, scary fast (0-60 in 3.5s), but believe it or not, the P85 feels a LOT quicker than the Ferrari in the real world. (I don't think any ICE vehicle could ever compare with the instantaneous rush that the P85 provides.) And, I now feel like people are glaring at me when I drive the Ferrari. The attention the Tesla gets is pure admiration. It no longer makes sense to drive the Ferrari - the Tesla provides such a greater depth of satisfaction. In the Tesla, I am driving the future. In the Ferrari (or any other car), I am still stuck in the Industrial Age.

The Model S has rendered obsolete the very best cars in the world. My Ferrari is now gathering dust. Thanks a lot, Model S.


These posts are pretty impressive and seem to validate Tesla's role as a fast acting market disrupter. From powerful status symbol to primitive and undesirable with one test drive! Whose car is a brick now?

I would think that the resale value of most high end ICEs is rapidly declining, esp in California?

I agree with your "something to hate". I have owned 3 Ferrari 's, and thankfully none at present. My P85 is a much better car. My BMW M6 is gathering dust in the garage. I love my Tesla. Thank you Elon!

I'm selling my 2013 Volt. I love driving it. My P85+ is due in about 3 weeks. Can't wait..

SHY One is a jet fighter and the other starfighter. The jet fighter including the noise is so 20th century.

I read a guesstimate stating that with 4WD it'll do 0-60 in 3.2 secs... it'll probably be an option once the Model X is out.

But still... it just didn't give me the rush I'd expected. I'll give it another shot come winter and snow...

Must also say that it felt very heavy (it is!) and it's a bit floaty, even in sport mode. I'd guess in 5-10 years the batteries will weigh only 1/2 as of now, should make a big difference.

But why tell you guys? You're already sold :-)

And after all I am 20 century too :-)))

give me your Ferrari and I will love her.

I don't own a Model S. I still don't like my ICE though.

Just saving and waiting. Saving and waiting...

SHY Just curious what car you are driving now?

LOL its funny! but yet so true. Other people driving ICE has no idea what they are missing out. I try to convince my friends about electric cars but now I'm too tired to sound like a broken record. Now I just smile... :)

Add the BMW M5 to this list. Loved it as my daily drive for 5 years. Now a proud P85+ owner. Wouldn't go back if you paid me. MUCH quicker 0-60 (but M5 would probably catch up from 60-100). And no guiltly conscience from getting only 12.7 MPG.

Wow. 12.7 mpg? It's intruding on Hummer territory.

I was upset with 28 mpg from my hybrid. Now my other two ICE boxes are collecting dust on the street.

How do you compare an MS with any of the ICE junks in the market?

Some people don't deserve to use any electronic devices since abacus still works wonder for them.

I never hand wash my car until i got the Model S.

I had the 550 CLS, and E350 before.

I've been an RS6 Estate owner for the last 8 years as nothing else was substancially different. That all changed last thursday when I test drove a P85!

Deposit paid just waiting on my production slot which should deliver my car in April / May 2014. I will be the proud owner of one of the first UK cars (OK around 150th ;))

Currently wishing my life away!!

@Carl: Saab 9-5 Estate, BSR II chip 230 HP, lowered ++. Very good design (by Hareide, norwegian), comfortable, very secure, fantastic seats, good power.

I did want the new 9-5 Estate but the whole Saab factory went bankrupt before I had the chance :-)

Anway, since I'm still on here I guess that means I'm still a potential Tesla owner... I see the MS on my way to/from work on my bike mostly every day. And I can't help but to turn my head :-)))

That AWD→3.2 sec was a guess by someone who thought the second motor would double power to the wheels. Not true. The motors are (per JD) different. And the battery output is the constraint.

OK, what's your guesstimate?

You don't need nearly as much power to the front as to the rears. And you'd preferably have a system where the front drive only engage when needed (like on the Nissan GTR for instance).

But you claim the battery has not enough "C rating" (burst ability) to deliver it?

Those of you who have the P85+, with TC off - do you get a lot of wheelspin on dry, clean asphalt?

Nothing special about falling in love with Tesla after trial. I fell in love with this car since when the first announcement of it to production.

You can add an Aston Martin V8 Vantage to the list of ICE's that have become second choice to the Model S.

SHY I thought you are driving real loud Lambo or something like that. My car has engine right behind my ears and can put out some nice sounds but I still want the quite starfighter much more.

As for 4 wheel drive I think it's more to help high speed cornering than straight line acceleration. Why else is top fuel dragsters do not have 4WD?

JD suggested the front motor would have lower reduction gear ratio, suitable for cruising, with electronic allocation of power to optimize power and range between the two motors. Different paradigm, not aimed at maximizing 0-60 torque.

LOL! Carl, I don't have the cash nor shape for a Lambo (195 cm). Add 3 small kids to that :-) And up here you don't see ANY Lambos. Maybe a Ferrari once a year, it's not it's right climate :-) It's more of Porsche Cayenne territory.

Dragsters are so special you can't really compare to that:
-Straight line
-Track bite
-Super soft & ballooning tyres
-The rear wheels bite so hard the front lifts off the ground :-)

Believe me 4WD helps all over the place! And you also need to add real life cirumstances like dirt, water, ice and snow. With 4WD you can really get the power down and go a hella lot quicker! With ease as it also stabilizes the car :-)

Also the quality of the traction control is very important. Ever heard about "Race Logic Traction Control"? It let's you manually adjust the amount of slip. To be adjusted to given track conditons. It'll even let you do 5, 25, 50% power slides. That was a bit off topic, but the point is that a really good TC system in a 2WD car will outaccelerate a 4WD with a crappy TC (set too conservative).

I like the idea of an EV sportscar. Not much that can go wrong. I've already replaced the whole engine in my Saab once. One of the conrods went straight off, then made it's way out through the engine block :-)

@JZ13 - how did the sale go?

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