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Help With Itinerary- Seattle to San Francisco

I am hoping to drive my 85P+ ( dual chargers) From Seattle to San Fran the end of April.
I will need to leave SEA on Friday around 2PM and ultimately be at a conference near Fisherman's Wharf in SFO that starts at Noon on Sunday. This will give me about 46 hours to get there-check-in-register etc.
I am looking for a recommended route/itinerary that will provide a pleasant,scenic drive.
I would also appreciate receiving recommendations for nice places to sleep/eat Friday and Saturday evening, of course charging is the biggest priority.

I realize that I have map access to Supercharger locations etc. but I'm looking for recommendations for routing, lodging, Resto's etc, along the way from other Tesla owners.
Thanks
Gymcon

I've done that trip three times in the last year or so. It became so much easier the last time I did it because I could use superchargers all the way. Total driving/charging time was about 18 hours at a fairly leisurely pace, so two days is quite doable.

The route is pretty straightforward, since you would follow the superchargers all the way. Just follow I-5 until the turn-off for I-505 to Vacaville, then I-80 into SF.

It sounds like you want to take two nights on the road. I always did it with just one overnight (except the last return trip, when I did it in one long day), so my recommendations may not work for you. I typically stayed at Seven Feathers Resort/Hotel/Casino in Canyonville Oregon, which is about half way. Since you want to leave Seattle at 2:00 p.m., you wouldn't get to Canyonville until fairly late. Still, you could hit the superchargers in Centralia and Woodburn, eat dinner at Elmers in Springfield while you charge at that supercharger (OK food, not great), then roll into the Seven Feathers at around 10:30 or 11:00 p.m. The Seven Feathers has several charging opportunities: a 70-amp Roadster station (borrow an adapter), a level 2 Aerovironment station (was free, but may require payment by now), and NEMA 14-50 outlets over in the RV section. The hotel is pretty nice, and quite cheap.

If you charge overnight in Canyonville, you could probably skip the supercharger in Grants Pass, and go straight to the Mt. Shasta supercharger. Eat brunch at the Black Bear Diner -- pretty good. The Corning supercharger doesn't have much in the way of restaurants -- maybe Starbucks. And I don't know about Vacaville, as it was not yet open when I made the trip. But you should get to SF by early evening, and your restaurant choices will be much better there.

Hope this helps.

Just did this drive, down and back, with a friend in a Q7 TDI. We headed out to Crescent City from Grants Pass. What a great drive! We checked out the SpC in Grants Pass. Then we kept on the lookout for possible charging locations all the way down to Santa Rosa. Looking forward to SpC down the Nor Cal coast!

Anyway, if you have extra time that's a really beautiful drive. Have you done that drive Douglas? I know the west coast green highway covers most of the WA and OR but I didn't see any coverage in Nor Cal.

Cheers!

@goneskiian - I used to live in Northern California. I've driven the coast route many times, up through the redwoods and perhaps as far north as Crescent City. I haven't done it in the Model S, however.

When you are charging at the Springfield, OR SC, forget Elmers. It is a very short walk to Hop Valley Brew Pub, (you drive right past it to reach theSC). Fantastic food, and last time we were there, an amazing hop/raspberry lemonaid. They also make really great root beer, plus of course many great beers.

This is all much appreciated. Am I correct to assume that I should defer to the scenic coastal Highway and weave back to the Interstate as needed to Charge??? I do have 40+ hours. I have not done this trip so any details are really appreciated.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH

@paul - thanks for the tip. I'll try the Hop Valley Brew Pub next time.

@Jim - I think it would be pretty difficult to do much back and forth between the coast highway and I-5, both in terms of the time it would take you and the charging opportunities available. To take advantage of that extra day, however, you might want to plan out a single side trip.

One possibility is to drive through the Willamette Valley wine country. The state of Oregon publishes an EV tour guide through the Willamette Valley, showing charging stations, in case you get too far from a supercharger. Look for it online.

Another possibility is to get off I-5 at Salem, drive east on 22 and 18 to Lincoln City, south along the coast to Newport, then back to I-5 via highway 20. I have never done it, but it looks to be under 200 miles from the Woodburn supercharger to the Springfield supercharger using that route. However, be sure to scout out other charging opportunities along the way, in case you need them.

Have fun!

Jim, here is a link to the Willamette Valley EV tour:

http://traveloregon.com/trip-ideas/itineraries/north-willamette-valley-t...

Once again, thanks for the efforts and information. It now appears that I may need to charge at a non Tesla supercharger facility at some point. Currently I commute and have only charged at home after work. I see "Blink" stations in parking garages around Seattle. Can someone advise me as to how I go about arranging to use non Tesla supercharges and which to sign up with.
Thanks

Someone else may be able to give you more current information. I have accounts with Blink, Chargepoint, Aerovironment, and Semaconnect, although I rarely use any of them. At least when I did it, all were free to sign up, although some required you to put a few dollars into an online account and back it up with a credit card.

Blink had some technical problems, then it went bankrupt and was acquired by Carcharging. Carcharging claims to have addressed the problems, but I believe you still need to pay by the hour. Although the price may have changed, I think is was $1.50 per hour for members at the no-monthly-fee level, and $1.00 for those who pay something each month. Like many of these companies, I think you could also call in without an account, and charge on a one-off basis using your credit card ($2.00, I think). Blink is in a lot of places, so it's a good one if you're in a pinch.

Chargepoint is also fairly ubiquitous, more so in California. Chargepoint works out an arrangement with individual merchants, and lets them set the price. Many of them are therefore free, but prices are all over the map. I think you can call in without an account.

Aerovironment is particularly good in the northwest, because it has installed most if not all of the stations that form the West Coast Green Highway (http://www.westcoastgreenhighway.com/electrichighway.htm). When I used them, they were free. You could also call in without an account. However, in the last few weeks, I have received several emails from them asking me to subscribe at $20 per month (hah!). I think that means that the free ride is about to end. The emails state that you can still get pay-per-use for $4 for their level 2 charger. I don't know whether you will need an account to do this, but probably not. I also don't know whether the $4 is for a complete charge, an hour, or what.

SemaConnect has a few stations around, but they are not as common as the other three. I've never used them, so I can't say that much about them.

Again, you will want to consult the individual websites (and possibly call) to get the latest information.

Doug

On more thing, there is only one kind of Supercharger and those are the ones provided by Tesla. All these other charging options are glorified NEMA 10-40's if they are even that powerful (you'll be lucky if they are!). Unless, of course, it's a CHAdeMO charger or a high amp level 2 then it's about equal to a HPWC.

Thanks for your input on the coastal run Douglas!

Cheers!

*One*

Just to avoid confusion, these public AC chargers are J1772 (not NEMA xx-yy), so you will need your J1772 adapter. Most operate at about 30A x 208V, which works out to about 6.2 kW, or about 18 miles per hour of charge (2/3 the rate of the NEMA 14-50 in your garage). Many locations along this route also have CHAdeMO DC chargers. They would provide a faster charge than an HPWC, but they cannot be used by the Model S because there is no adapter. There are also several places along the route where you could make use of your twin chargers to charge at 20 kW (for some, you would need to borrow a Roadster-to-S adapter): Centralia, Tigard, Eugene, Canyonville, Yreka, etc. It is unlikely you will need these, however, as superchargers are also available on this route.

Yesterday I put in a call to Aerovironment to get clarification on their new policy. You no longer need the RFID card unless you sign up for the $20/month unlimited service. Just call in, and give them a credit card number over the phone. The cost is $4.00 per session, which is actually a pretty good deal if you have time to fill up. The Seven Feathers in Canyonville has an Aerovironment station, which I have used to charge up overnight. It also has a free Roadster high amp station, which requires an adapter, as well as 50 amp RV hookups, for which they charge a fee. When I told the guy from Aerovironment that I had no interest in signing up for the unlimited service, he advised me to hang on to my RFID card. The implication was that this new service may not pan out, and they could do something else in the future.

Correction: At Tigard (the Tesla store), they have both HPWC and Roadster stations.

Thank you for the further clarification Douglas. My apologies for being a bit glib but I wanted to correct the posters use if the term Supercharger.

I just spent almost a full week in Walla Walla and saw only one silver S. The house we rented had a large dryer plug (not sure exactly which type, maybe a 10-30?) just inside the garage door. I know where I'll be renting when I return with my Tesla! ;-)

Cheers!

Oh . . . I read his post as asking about use of "non-TeslaSuperchargers," i.e., stations that are not Tesla superchargers, rather than "non-Tesla superchargers," i.e., superchargers that are not owned by Tesla. :)

Clearly if he meant the latter, a correction is needed.

The only type station that comes close to the supercharger is a CHAdeMO DC quick charger, which is capable of charging at about half the rate of a supercharger. But we can't use it because there is no adapter available. For about the last six months, TM has been saying on its "shop" website that such an adapter ($1,000) is "coming soon."


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