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"Must-Have" Wish List

I was going to try to compile a short list of features that the Model S really ought to have, similar to the Punch List thread. However, unlike the items in that thread, there is no objective standard for determining what should be on it (i.e., no promise or specification from TM that we can check). Moreover, there will be little or no opportunity to strike items from the list, as TM is unlikely to offer these features in the current model run. So I would like to make this a list of five to ten features that we think a car in this class should really have. Not "it would be nice," but real deficiencies, perhaps even things you would be willing to pay extra for. If there is enough consensus, we can hope TM will offer these features as upgrades or at least provide them in future model years. Here are my initial suggestions, although I'm sure there are others: 1. Power folding mirrors 2. Parking sensors with audible warnings 3. Blind spot monitoring 4. Rear camera guidelines 5. Adaptive cruise control 6. Key fob-linked driver profiles 7. Entry and exit seat settings Please feel free to add or subtract to this list, but let's not try to design a fantasy car here.

While key fob-linked driver profiles is probably something that can be added after the fact (assuming each fob has a unique identifier), I'd remove this from the list. I had initially thought this would be good as well, but the implementation of driver profiles is so nice as it is, that key fob-linked just isn't needed IMHO. The touch screen makes selecting a profile extremely easy, and unless you just can't easily get in the car (one big driver, one small one), if you are trying to get to 5 items, this one is certainly the lowest priority. Your (7) can probably go as well, but if it were there, there is even less reason for 6.

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stephen,

I don't have my car yet, so I'm in no position to judge. If I get a few more comments like yours from actual owners, I will remove (6) and possibly (7). Thanks.

@stephen.pace@ka... | OCTOBER 17, 2012: The touch screen makes selecting a profile extremely easy, and unless you just can't easily get in the car (one big driver, one small one)

I think this is exactly why we need item #7 (Entry and exit seat settings). If the seats do not move out of the way to make entry easy, it will be difficult for people to adjust the seat before going in.

Also #6 (Key fob-linked driver profiles) is very useful. I have this features on several cars. There is no need to fumble with the screen when getting in to the car: the car is just ready with all your settings. I think the ability to add a key to a profile would be all that is needed. If you don't want this feature, then don't add the key to the profile.

@DouglasR | OCTOBER 17, 201: I don't have my car yet, so I'm in no position to judge. If I get a few more comments like yours from actual owners, I will remove (6) and possibly (7).

I'm not an actual owner - just a reservation holder. But my option should count for something. I am of the belief that having as many features as possible is beneficial. If the GUI is properly organized, the extra features should not get in the way.

@Alex K: But as someone else pointed out in another thread, all you have to do is create a user profile "Exit" and have the smaller person press it as they leave the car. You mention fumbling with the touch screen, but when you sit down, the screen comes on, and user profile (and Homelink) are already there on the top. Just select the profile and go. I'm not saying that having the fob auto-select the profile isn't marginally better, just that the profile option is so easy to select that I don't think it would bug me in the least. Whereas I completely agree with power folding mirrors being the #1 item on the list.

tow hook
dont care about useless gadget (door handle etc)

User profile being tied to the fob is essential.....Wife is 5', I'm 6'. I cannot sit down to change the settings on the screen, because I cannot fit. Also, as important, two different color fobs, so I don't take hers to the car by accident. And when she loses hers, if it was white, she couldn't blame me like she does with the nail clippers. (Divorce could solve this, but I'm afraid she'd get the car) I have 1-1/2 inches clearance on each side from mirror to mirror when entering the garage. I open the driver side window and fold in the driver mirror for a little breathing room; would like electronic folding ones for ease. Cup holders are misplaced and the directional stalk and the cruise stalk should be reversed. With your hands in driving position at 10 and 2, your left pinkie should reach the blinker for a left turn, not reach the accelerate function of the cruise control. In my opinion, this is more dangerous than watching the occasional porn on the screen. LOL

Looking at the comments above, I am giving up on trying to maintain this as a single list. There are no agreed upon standards, and judgments are too subjective. I suggest that each person simply post his or her own 5-10 item list. Sorry.

For the record, I don't agree with a tow hook unless it can be shown that towing the car will not damage it. As for different color fobs, I suggest a dab of nail polish (or a divorce). I don't have any FLAC recordings, so that is not something I would pay extra for.

DouglasR Yes simply dont tow the car a really good solution. Never using the car can be good too.

I feel we must retain item #6, the Ke Fob to driver settings feature. I have this in a number of my cars now and any car of this level should have this. My wife too is small and I can not get in my car if I pick up the wrong keys (which has happened only once or twice). At least in my other cars there is a button on the door for the Driver Seat settings. With only screen access, how do you get into the seat to turn it on if you don't fit? The Exit setting is a great idea... If the previous driver remembers to set it!

1,2,3 & 5 would be great additions. I wouldn't mind adding infra-red night vision to detect animals and people in low visability situations.

the list makes perfect sense to me.
(1-6) is pretty much a must on any modern luxury car.
(7) I'm not sure about. In most cases the standard behavior is to move the seat back and raise the steering column once you pull the door handle.

Nothing listed so far is needed, and I'm glad they are not on my (soon to be) car.

Automatic steering retraction exactly as on the Lexus on exiting the vehicle. We ARE dealing with " the best car in the world".

The FLAC multichannel playability isn't something that you would need to pay extra for. Its just one of the current music formats. I can't play my discs and I can't copy them either. I have to re-purchase the music as it stands now.

I think it can be done in a software update.

@captain

plenty of options, especially on linux, don't see why tesla wouldn't support it:
http://flac.sourceforge.net/links.html

IMO, (1) should read "Power folding mirrors/door mirrors replaced by cameras". Given that power folding mirrors seem to have been ruled out for the first generation of Model S, and the Model X prototype has cameras in lieu of mirrors, IMO both are equally likely for the next generation of Model S. Both would solve the problem (tight parking spaces) equally well -- actually with a small advantage to the cameras b/c they can always be used while a folded mirror cannot give any guidance.

For reference only: "No Power Folding Mirrors for Model S in the future."
http://www.teslamotors.com/forum/forums/no-power-folding-mirrors-model-s...

100% agree with your whole list!!!!

Are aftermarket power folding mirrors possible?

How can you say nothing in that list is needed? Lol seriously? You like moving your seat to get into the car and hitting your knees on the wheel? You like folding a mirror to get into a tight garage? You enjoy not being able to use guidelines to back up into a parking space? Saying you don't want those things is just silly. My 03 30k infiniti has all 7

Great job on the list! I agree with everything so far. Please add:

Rear passenger storage

I can get away with just using the glove compartment up front but my passengers in the back will need some (or all) of the following:
1.) Pocket behind front seats
2.) Compartment space built in the door
3.) Cup holders

Thanks
GV

georgevet, which brings up an interesting question: Does the interior design of the rear doors serve as an arm rest? Or is it too low/too sloped for that purpose? Would love to hear a comment from someone who already has a Model S at home.

Also, here's another item for this list, albeit related to georgevets' items: Drop-down armrest integrated into the second row center seat back, with storage and cup holders.

It is nice to have seating for five, but in many more cases there will only be three or four people traveling with the Model S. A center armrest adds a lot of comfort (and luxury feel) for the rear passengers (particularly when they have to slouch to avoid hitting the roof/hatch bar with their heads), and offers an opportunity for closed storage without interference with the rest of the interior design.

Some of these are great suggestions. As you know, I have abandoned as too difficult any attempt to maintain a single list. However, when this thread peters out, maybe I can try to list the ten or so most popular items (or at least the ones I like best).

I can tell you that the following things I am looking into installing myself after getting my Model S with links.

1. MobilEye http://www.mobileye.com/
2. Covering the whole car with the Clear Auto Bra http://clearautobra.com/
3. Radar detector (but I don't think Tesla would ever offer that).
4. Don't know if this can be installed after the fact but the blind spot detector is great considering the sports car typical blind spots on the Model S, http://delphi.com/manufacturers/auto/safety/active/sds/

I want to test out the iOn Road app but it's only for Android so far... http://www.ionroad.com/ and maybe a good solution to the MobilEye, just need a windshield mount for the SmartPhone and can control it from the 17" screen anyway via Bluetooth!

I'm confused. If one has a backup camera, why does one also need parking sensors (at least on the rear of the car). Can't you see what you are about to hit by looking at the view from the camera?

Enlighten me.

@Beaker, yes you can see, but when you are navigating a tight fit and need to reach the limits of the spot in which you are pulling in and don't want to drive by "feel" then guides that would virtually mark the boarder points are very helpful. For example, if you pull the car back as far as you can see it on the fish-eye lens, you WILL hit something.

@beaker

Camera alone doesn't give you enough depth perception to figure out how far the objects are.
Audible indication helps a lot and can see areas that the camera can't see.
The absolute best implementation I've seen is on Infinity JX and QX that have sensors *and* cameras on all sides, including cameras facing down on the side mirrors.
It's easier to park the huge QX than some two-door mazdas...

... and I can never remember they spell Infiniti with an 'i' ;)

I've already created a profile called 'Easy Entry'; the problem I have is remembering to select it before leaving the car. A simple software fix would be to have the car move the steering wheel up and forward when you open the driver's door after selecting Park. I'd like the seat to move aft and down, too, but some folks might object. Tesla could solve that by creating a permanent profile called something like 'Entry/Exit' which is activated as above (or by selecting it through the Profiles drop-down) and which can be tailored, just like any other profile.

1. Power folding mirrors - no, better for airstream mirrors
2. Parking sensors with audible warnings -- no, rear camera suffices
3. Blind spot monitoring -- no, i adjust my mirrors for little blind
4. Rear camera guidelines -- no, really?, like windshield guidelines?
5. Adaptive cruise control -- no, rather auto drive
6. Key fob-linked driver profiles -- YES - automate, no reason not to
7. Entry and exit seat settings -- connected with item 6
8. all personalizations to key fob (drive characteristics, dash config, etc.)
9. credit card thickness key fob with bodycom


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