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No Power Folding Mirrors for Model S in the future.

I emailed my Tesla Ownership Advocate regarding when we might expect to see Power Folding Mirrors implemented in the Model S as that is one of the reasons why I have not finalized my order. Being that the Model S is quite wide and I have single bay garage doors, it would be a hassle to not have the power-folding mirrors capability. I was hoping to finalize my order knowing that this would be a feature that can be added later and can be retro-fitted to existing production cars similar to the pano roof shade, opportunity console and rear reading lights. However, I was disappointed today to hear back from my Advocate that they have no plans to include Power-Folding Mirrors in the Model S now nor in the future. Below is the email that I got.

Hi Henry,

I just spoke to the product planning team and at this time there are no plans to incorporate power folding mirrors to the Model S. It will not be retrofitted into the vehicle, nor will it be a future addition. I apologize for the misconception.

However, if you could provide me with the dimensions of your garage, I would be happy to see if the Model S will fit comfortably with the mirrors unfolded, or perhaps only the driver’s side is necessary. I will hope for the former of the two options as I can understand the inconvenience of an additional step when you park your car.

Thank you for getting back to me.

Sincerely,

Peter

Peter Welch | Ownership Experience Advocate

Does anyone else have any information on this or can confirm this?

With Model S's traction control you shouldn't need to make a run at it in winter.

I visited the Porland OR showroom yesterday and specifically looked at the folding mirrors. Each mirror, when folded, reduces width by about 5". I suspect that the photo from the spec page misrepresents the width of the front of the car due to perspective. The published spec of 77.3 for the folded width is correct.

Thanks Thumper!

It doesn't seem like it saves that much in this video to me, but I hope it does!
http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=plcp&v=TQmKQvPKMH0

I always wonder a little when I see these "dealbreaker" comments. I loved the auto-folding mirrors on my last car and used them every day. I also liked the guidelines on the backup camera. I think lane-departure warning sounds cool, though I've never had it. The maintenance fees are pretty high IMO, just based on assumptions I had about this car being very-low-maintenance. I could go on and on, but the crux of it is, there is no other car made I would have considered spending $60K on, much less $100K. I still would never would dream of giving a start-up $40K interest free to reserve something I won't see for a year or more. In my opinion, there is no alternative to the Tesla Model S right now. If you were ever really serious about getting one, you're in for whatever turns out to be the end result.

For those of you still on the fence, I can tell you after two weeks as a daily driver: the car is AWESOME! The worst thing about it is having to spend upwards of an hour a day being peppered with questions about it.

I don't think anyone disagrees with you, it's just that this car is supposed to be practical and they made it out to be the widest sedan out there is they should have made it more practical with auto fold mirrors so more people can make the switch from ice. I'm willing to fold my mirror in twice a a day for this amazing car, but many people won't be.

Yes, most of us are willing to accept the car without this feature, but its absence goes to TM's overall philosophy of what this car should be.

I remember when some of the Japanese car companies started introducing various convenience and safety features as standard equipment. It was sort of revolutionary. Cars that had previously been seen as "toys" got a second look and started selling briskly. Who would have thought cup holders could be so popular? These features didn't add all that much to the cars' overall price, but represented a refreshing change from Detroit, which at the time was not offering them at all, or was nickel-and-diming us for every added benefit.

The Model S purports to be the best car at any price, and in many ways it is. Omissions are inevitable, given the rush to produce an entirely new vehicle on an ambitious schedule and at a price promised years in advance. But the feedback we provide on these omissions is important in helping TM to become the car company it strives to be.

Since the mirrors fold manually, place "bumpers" just outside the garage door to force them to fold. ;)

I just noticed that Tesla is looking to hire a Design Engineer that specializes in exterior mirrors. Hmmmmm.....

It's in the careers section.

That is how a lot of Apple Rumors were accurately diagnosed, look at their want ads! :)

I just noticed that Tesla is looking to hire a Design Engineer that specializes in exterior mirrors. Hmmmmm.....

Captain_Zap, nice find! :-)

I also noticed some European Job listings. You are getting set up!

Wow. They have someone who's job is just to design the mirrors? I want that job!

@nickjhowe, I think the difference between real measurements and lines in a picture are because that is an actual picture of a car, not a blueprint. Perspective error. Or Tesla has made an error with the measurements.

"I'm in the UK (Signature Reservation #19) and lack of the power-folding mirrors could well be a deal breaker for me!"

Deal breaker? Seriously?

At least other people with concerns are talking about the fact that they're garages are too small, so they need or would appreciate the ability to fold the mirrors as they are moving the car in.

But if you're just concerned about street parking, can't you just you know, put a little elbow grease into it?

At least other people with concerns are talking about the fact that they're garages are too small, so they need or would appreciate the ability to fold the mirrors as they are moving the car in.

bingo!

@Timo - I think it is perspective. I went to the Design Studio and looked at the plan view of the car and it is obvious that the mirrors stick out much more than 1.5". Sorry for the error everyone. Yet again I wish there was delete or edit on these forums!!!

@nichjhowe - yes, you've find the key fact: folding the mirrors would really be a placebo and give false confidence. You only gain 1.5".

Maybe Tesla made the right decision here...

pilot;
Heh. Looks like you and nick "crossed posts"; he's now withdrawn the 1.5" observation. Re-re-think and re-explanation is in order, once more again!

Maybe Model S 2.0 update after Model X comes out will let you upgrade your car to side view cameras for $800.

I use auto-folding mirrors in my current car every time I park it. I also have a narrow garage opening, the mirrors are a good guide extended but I'll close them at the last moment. I leave them that way in the garage, and in parking lots, because it makes it easier to walk by. Even if the bottom of the body is nearly as wide you're not going to bump your elbow, or purse, or backpack on the bottom.

This is nowhere close to a deal breaker but certainly a worthy feature for the best car in the world. I wish for it.

Maybe someone can just measure the mirror extensed vs folded in? I'd love to know the width of the car with one mirror folded vs both extended.

"Since the mirrors fold manually, place "bumpers" just outside the garage door to force them to fold. ;)"

I've actually been considering this :(

@Michael23 - latest info seems to be the specs page is correct, so 86.2" extended, 77.3" folded, 81.75" one mirror folded.

@dirk.saenen: Best. Post. Ever.

Haha...great post

Hilarious. And it doesn't need subtitles.

Really nice vid. We DO need folding mirrors, and since the controls are from the Merc parts bin, the switching is there, just add the motor! Its main use is safety in a parking lot - people brushing by your car are less likely to smash them!


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