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parking sensor retrofit not ready yet but...

I got an email from ownership experience that says they are trying to assess customer interest in this. So if you are interested let them know. Evidently they are keeping track of who responds.

Updated 10/28

If all you read is this, then know that TMC has decided not to offer this as an upgrade/retrofit. They say the cost is about $6K. I have heard all sorts of reasons for this from you have to replace the bumper to you have to replace the system console computer. Not sure what to believe except that they are not going to offer it.

Phoenix service center told me two weeks ago that no parking sensor retrofits would be offered due to cost. They said the decision had already been made.

+1 very interested in parking sensors

Thehunt;
The integration with the dash screen is likely to require wiring changes which you won't be able to do, even with all the parts in your hand.

Now that you know that a retrofit will cost $6000.00 would those of you who had the option to reconfigure at the time make a different decision to get the parking sensors?

I don't think $6,000 is the final word. Also, TM is fairly smart and would realize they'd be better off not offering it then upsetting people by charging so much - I think they'd choose to just not offer it before taking the PR hit of saying it is $6,000. For $6,000, I could probably sell my MS back to Tesla and buy a loaner with the sensors.

Everyone orders with eyes wide open knowing changes will come. I did. I wish I had the sensors, knew they'd come out at some point, but chose to order anyway. More changes will come and, like other cars, if people want the changes bad enough, they'll have to buy a newer versions of the car. Not the best answer, but I think it is reality.

It's not important enough. I don't know how many subscribers are on this forum, and how many of those are owners, and how many of those are vocal about the parking sensors. The rest of the 20,000 owners probably just drive their cars and I bet a huge majority of them don't even know there is an option for parking sensors now. They probably ordered their car a year ago and never looked at the website again.

Maybe 100 people total are vocal and upset about this. Out of 23,000 cars it's just not important enough.

The cost should surprise nobody. The center console is $1000, the trunk bag is $200, the parcel shelf is $250. What do you think two new bumpers, labor to drill holes, the actual parking sensors themselves, wiring harnesses and integration into the system will cost? $6000 is right about what I had been thinking.

+1 Interested in the parking sensors modification

Interested in the child seat modification

Need the reverse parking guidelines!

A rip off indeed, at $6,000

rfriess: Get in the back of the mistreated group line behind Signature owners, people without foglights, etc.

My car is awesome (Sig, VIN# 208). And I'm looking forward to all the neat new bells and whistles (self driving?!) when I replace it in 3 or 4 years.

Two things:
1) During my test drive, I asked the representative whether she had any good rumors about future features. Her response was "Nope. When the last changes happened, we didn't get any information about them until they showed up on cars." I think any Tesla field employee who provides "inside information" is most likely blowing smoke--probably no more reliable than the confident predictions made (should I say "made up"?) by some members of this group.

2) For those of you who are expecting a $1000 price on the sensors, please consider: You are comparing a factory-quality installation to the work of a guy-in-a-garage who drills holes in a bumper with a hand-drill, taps into existing wires with vampire connectors, and glues some kind of display to a convenient spot in the cockpit. There is no way that it would be wise for Tesla to permit such an installation by their techs. The owners of such cars would represent the result as Tesla work, and their friends would judge Tesla accordingly. The company would be crazy not to insist that a retrofit be of the same quality as a true factory install. That (apparently) means new bumpers, new wiring harnesses, etc., etc. $6K isn't too implausible. I agree that this does not seem likely to happen.

I fear you guys are just going to have to suck it up.

This is a dead issue. As I said, service center informed that there will be no parking sensor retrofits, period. This decision was made by Tesla over two weeks ago and the service center was communicating what they were told by corporate. So I'm not sure why we are continuing to debate something that is not going to happen at any price. Tesla told me that due to the cost, Tesla will not be offering the retrofit. That sounds pretty decisive to me. I know there are some here who won't believe anything unless it comes from Elon or one of the VPs, but my service center was very explicit about the decision that has been handed down.

And no, I would not have re-priced my vehicle to the tune of over $5,000 in order to receive a set of parking sensors that do nothing to help with my #1 issue - curbs. It's a nice "me too" feature, but it is not a safety feature. Give me side view cameras and lane keep assist, then I might be willing to spend $6,000 on something that might actually save my life instead of a scratch on my bumper.

When I 'switched' from my Lexus rx450h to my Model S, the warning parking sensor beep was the one feature that I sadly miss and still do. It was indispensable and I am said to have dispensed with it. Yes, please do come up with a retrofit option - badly needed.

> The center console is $1000...

@Thomas N - I think you're looking at the aftermarket CCI. The official Tesla center console is still listed as "coming soon" with no price listed.

@carol: I don't think even the factory sensors beep (could be rectified later in SW). I didn't notice anything on my test drives.

@Amped Looking at recent photos of MS collisions, lane assist will be saving someone else's life, you're pretty safe in your Tesla. at any speed with any obstacle.

I never own or drove a car that has parking sensors. My question is isn't adding the grid lines (red/yellow/green) on the backup camera which is a software enhancement, will take care of the backup? I do understand it may not help me to see the front side. I suspect the grid line is part of Tesla's future enhancement since we have a lot of request on this.

@Amped I appreciate the response, I think the issue is others are getting completely different stories. For example, my service center just told me two days ago that no decision has been made, but they expect it will be an option, but a very expensive one.

The desire to hear it from Elon or a VP has to do with the fact that no one else seems to be have a consistent answer - as you can tell from reading this thread. If they've made up their mind, they need to communicate it - though we all know that's not their strong point.

+1 for parking sensors. My 2 cents: I've ordered my Tesla with a 11+ month lead time (ordered on July 31 2013 for a July 2014 delivery) for various personal reasons. It seems reasonable to accommodate either i) no cost parking sensor inclusion (with tech package already selected) or ii) additional customer cost ($500) to add the parking sensors if it's not technically a retrofit but rather an update to an order since parts are typically ordered "just in time" and there's plenty of time left to offer the parking sensors as an option without retrofitting. I'm not breaking down the cost here or doing a profit analysis. I'm just saying it would be a nice gesture from Tesla, given our loyalty to the startup (if you can still call it a startup given the IPO and stock appreciation) and it's great product. I just don't want to re-price my vehicle for $5k+ simply to add parking sensors for an order in queue. Parking sensors are such a useful feature and some insurance to reduce bumper damage / scratches which can be expensive to repair. Furthermore, I think PS should be a standard feature with the backup camera / tech package, but worst case, I would be willing to pay $500. I really hope Tesla accommodates inclusion of PS for orders that aren't already in manufacturing or if bumpers and other parts have not already been sourced, if they are unwilling to include a retrofit for current owners.

Parking sensors are obsolete and unnecessary if Tesla can mount more cameras to cover the front bumper distance from the curb, and replace side mirrors with cameras which would be more economical as well as reduce drag to improve range!

I can't believe in today's world that they didn't come stock from the factory that way?

They should have, and I'd like them.

mike;
The original MX prototypes had side cameras instead of mirrors, but getting approval is the problem.

thehunt | SEPTEMBER 25, 2013
How about they just sell us the parts for $500 and then we can one of the third party installers doing aftermarket installations install them. $6000 is ridiculous.

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I LIKE this idea!

Sounds like a win-win. Tesla gets additional revenue, and we do our own installs. Or, for additional revenue, Tesla Service does the whole thing, but sure as heck not for $6k! There must be a third way; keep working on a solution Tesla.

Frankly, they should have come with the first car, VIN 001, but I guess they had a lot on their plates at the time so I'll cut 'em some slack. It's not like it's new technology as they were on my 2002 BMW 330i. The difference is the integration with Tesla's displays and I'm sure that took some time I guess.

Mark
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@dmoorjani

I ordered in July. Delivery in late September. They refused to add the parking sensors for 500. Multiple people from tesla told me it would require ordering a new car and paying the higher prices. It would cost me about 10000 because I ordered the performance.

+1 on the parking sensors
Early owners should never loose out on these. They should find some third party shops to do the work. Everyone wins then. I like the additions, but hate the idea of not being able to upgrade when you buy early. This is sending a bad message. The rear camera is lame without some tire lines which is just a software upgrade.
I am a huge supporter of Tesla but this is not making me a fan. My car is obsolete even before the next model shows up. Not cool.

@jbasso Everything is obsolete once it comes to market. that's just the way of things.

BTW the rear camera is incredible. Try it for a while. You'll love it.

I have installed Curbalert (EV model) this is an aftermarket sensors that beep on approach to a front curb about 18 inches but is ajustable by owner using the push button automatic calibration on installation. Everything is hidden except the sensor of course. Price was $149 plus a saturday afternoon for me to install. It fixed the problem and has saved my front end from damage by those front parking curbs. I did have to cut a small hole in the black plastic mesh grill at the front of the car which was easy and is not noticable as it is right below the big plastic piece that pops off the front of the car. Make sure you buy the EV model not any other model as they will not turn on below 13 volts and the MS is a 12 volt system. http://www.curb-alert.com

Tesla and Model S in particular is just at the beginning of the cycle in innovation. Besides parking sensors, they will eventually add all kinds of sensors for curb parking, lane change assist, smart cruise control, collision avoidance, etc. Mercedes S550 already offers these features. Then there is the autopilot Elon talks about. The ModelS, X, etc will have batteries good for 500 miles, AWD with dynamic control with output of >500 HP.

Do a person really want to wait for all these improvements, most of which are "wants", especially if they can afford the car easily? What? Wait till starting to wear a leg bag and after b/l catarat surgery? I got the Model S without the sensors and I would have wanted 500 mile range or least, superchargers in the interstates where I drive. I can do without the frills except for the Superchargers, which will happen soon... that is my need.

The rest is just "wants". My first car was a Dodge with a stick shift clunker. Used to park in a slope when possible so that if the battery was dead I could get it rolling and then drop the clutch. Travelled with long jumper cables, CB radio, few cans of oil, brake fluid, antifreeze, belts, spark plugs, cap, timing light, Craftsman tool box, canned food, water, etc. Back then, people were nice and always helped when stranded. While in college had no problem going on a date. These days, no chance in the average college scene.

Meanwhile, my 85P/Pano/Tech is really fun to drive!

I just heard from ownership experience that the retrofit "solution" TM came up with was deemed far too expensive to offer, as such, TM will not offer a parking sensor retrofit now. If they can figure out how to do it in a less expensive way in the future, they may do so.

I know there were several threads on this, so it may have been reported elsewhere, but I just used volkerize to find the first thread I could.

Oh well...

Any chance they might offer a front camera?

My local service center told me the same about a month ago - that the decision has been made not to offer the parking sensor retrofit due to cost. Now the next question is this... can independent parts/body shops order the components separately and cobble together the same components into something that works?


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