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You may want to rethink the rear wheel drive on the Model S. I guess performance on dry pavement is best with real wheel drive but that is not the case in difficult conditions. Front (and of course all wheel) drive vehicles are sooo much better in snow and ice. I would much rather be in my old Honda or even my old Plymouth van in snow than than in my current BMW. Please reconsider.

Sacox,

What's the weight distribution on you BMW?

Saddle leather, center console and kids seats...I've give'em all up to light up all 4 tires around the track.

@volker.berlin

Thought I'd continue the discussion here from the Canadian thread.

My viewpoint is simple. I'd like Tesla to offer a 4WD option. It's the same chassis as the Model X. So it could easily be done. Price it right and there's quite a few of us who would pay for it.

I get that you don't think it's necessary. That's fine. But there are quite a few of us that would be willing to pay for it. I fail to see why Tesla wouldn't want our money.

I get that you don't think it's necessary. That's fine. But there are quite a few of us that would be willing to pay for it. I fail to see why Tesla wouldn't want our money. (keithz)

No problem with that! ;-) Tesla is really trying hard to part you from as much of your money as possible. Just think of the Signature program, clever move. Similarly the Model X: Leveraging the Model S platform to significantly enlarge the target audience with relatively little incremental development efforts.

Adding AWD to the Model S looks easy enough, but for sure it does not come for free, in terms of time, money, engineering hours/head count which is more or less all the same. There is nothing that would rule out an AWD option for the Model S in principle, not even from my point of view. I think, the only reason why they do not offer it right away, is because it cannot all be done at the same time.

I am only guessing here, but between the Model X with optional AWD and the Model S without that option, there's probably a relatively small set of potential customers that would buy a Model S AWD but strictly don't consider any of the other of Tesla's offerings. That's not to say that this customer potential is negligible, but considering that they cannot do it all at the same time, it seems plausible to me that they prioritized the Model X (with AWD) over the Model S AWD.

Also keep in mind that they don't offer the Model X AWD this summer. AWD is still only an announcement for when the Model X becomes available, which buys Tesla some development time. It's not like they could take the AWD drive train from the Model X and implant it into the Model S today, simply because it does not yet exist (in terms of "production ready").

When the Model X is ready, and the AWD option for the Model X is ready, I am sure Tesla will reevaluate the cost vs. the opportunity of offering the Model S with an AWD option. It's not unlikely that they will then develop and offer that option, i.e., for the Model S 1.5 or 2.0 (if they stick with the Roadster versioning scheme).

I fail to see why Tesla wouldn't want our money. (keithz)

Tesla is really trying hard to part you from as much of your money as possible. (Volker.Berlin)

Cross-topic remark: Dare I mention the Tech Package? They do want our money, no doubt about that! ;-)

@VB

Good points sir.

They could have pre-launched the AWD Model S with the Model X possibly. Oh well, time will tell.

They would have to redo the crash testing with an AWD model S.

@keithz, @Volker.Berlin

I think I agree with both of you if you phrase it this way:
"Tesla should seriously consider offering AWD for Model S 2.0 (or 1.5)."

I think the difference of opinion is about whether it's wise for them to explore it for v1.

I would NEVER think of buying a Tesla with FWD. If a performance car doesn't have RWD, it's not worth buying, even if it has 400 HP to start off.

Anyway, just some side thoughts: HP wise, the 400 HP is pretty nice, but because you can't just take it to any mechanic, or buy aftermarket parts to increase performance. How do I break the 500 HP??? Looks like even if it were possible, Tesla is where I would need to get the parts - and I HATE companies that try to hold a monopoly on what I buy, or tell me what I can or can't buy. I like being able to control the cost, not them. Right now, there are guys out there that took cars that cost less than a Tesla Model S and modified them to have 500, 700, or even 1000 HP. The fact that it's electrical or "Green" means NOTHING to me compared to the performance you can get out of a car.


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