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Tesla as an opportunity of investment

I belive that all people that are reading this post think that Tesla is a great Car Company, the most advanced, the most innoative and the most oriented at the future.
This is the reason for which I'm evaluating tesla as an opportunity of investment and i would like to discuss with you about this.

I use TD Ameritrade, and my brokerage has no more shares available for shorts to sell. I have been long the stock since $28, but I am just curious about how much more shares are still out there. Can you guys tell us what brokerage you use and what's the shares availability for the shorts at your brokerage firm? Thanks!

It's down a buck now. Buy, buy, buy‼‼

I think the short squeeze is starting to wind down, now. It will probably try to test the high again a few times, establishing lower highs, but I think the trend is starting to reverse downwards for the next month at least. At some point it will drop to about $40 or $50 before consolidating and eventually start rise in more of a normal manner by the end of the year. Just thought I'd post my prediction to see how far off I am. Cheers.

I think it's not right to call it a single short squeeze. I think there have been three thus far. It started April 1st. 30s-50s. Then after the Q1 results 60s-90s. Followed by offering/DOE pay off 90s-110s.

Each squeeze had a separate short position "cohort" based on different set of assumptions as the information came out.

I feel the short position will remain high because the current thought is 100 is way too high and no new announcements will change that. All the big announcements/developments have been done and nothing will top them for a while.

Through to the end of this month and for a month or so after, might see a steady decline in volume and stock price. Probably pick back up after Q2 results if not then, Q3.

Man, I just bought 95 shares @$103 yesterday thinking that I got a good deal, and now I check and they're declining at such a rapid space, already at $98

To the experts out there, should I cut my loses now and just sell or give it a few more days?

And yes, Elon admitting he's not dating Cameron Diaz did hurt the stock today. That pairing would've pushed it to at least 113.33.

Acurakidd -- it might drop a bit more in the short term. However, in 2-5 years could see 100%-300%+ on your investment. Keep dollar cost averaging. This is a "winner" mid-long term.

What does dollar cost averaging mean?

Put some hard earned cash in every month for the next year. Ex, purchase a $100 dollars worth for till June 2013 (or however long you want really). The idea is your average cost per share will be lower over that time you buy (weather the highs and lows). Good strategy to get more for your money.

Down to 97! Buy, buy, buy‼

I'm not sure this stock still has any momentum left to keep climbing. There's been lots of great news surrounding this company lately, and you'd think that would cause the stock to keep climbing, but its declined to below $100 at a very scary and rapid pace.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

@jk2014, can you recommend a good broker, I'm currently using sharebuilder and its costing me $6.95 per trade


Most of the people that post here believe in Tesla LONG TERM. Short term share price changes are a recipe for trading disaster.

If you think Tesla will be a success in the middle and long-term future, then follow the advice of jk2014 and dollar cost average.

Im confident in the long term of the stock as i have introduced my 11 yr old daughter to ivesting with this stock as her first venture.
I made an agreement that I would invest as much as she did to keep her more sure of the choice we made together. Yes it is small in dollar amount, but enough to have her realize what an informed, researched choice can do in the long run.
She is very excited to see the gains so far, despite the dip, as I have told her there would be with any investment.
looking forard to further gains down the road!

I am hoping that something drops the stock back to $50 or so. I really don't feel I can buy more at this high price but would love to pick up more at $50. Ah well I bought at like $40 so it is officially the fastest appreciating stock I have ever bought thanks to the short squeezes.

why this flexion ?

re-testing 110 $ ?

On the way back up.... an analyst predicted a levelling out value of $109, that seems reasonable to me. Maybe it is quite overvalued at present, but I believe that in the medium term Tesla will prove it's value. I see it as the Apple of the automotive industry.

As some analysts have commented, there is no rational standard way to "value" TM stock yet; it's way too early in the company's life cycle. It has avoided all of the pitfalls to date, and has various competitive advantages which it may profit from handsomely in the medium term.

IMO, Elon's in-your-face disregard for "market studies" and laser focus on product design and quality is the "secret sauce".

Brian H,

FWIW we should be careful about using TM to mean Tesla when talking about stock. There are lots of practical ways to value TM stock. Toyota has been in business for a long time. TSLA on the other hand...

My techie son-in-law told me about Tesla's unique position in the car market. I researched the stock and bought at $42, have added, harvested profits and added again. In addition to being a great stock, they make a great car. So, I now have a MS on order for delivery late July. What pays for this? Tesla stock! Isn't that fun? Despite today's market crash, just before the big announcement, I am still confident that Tesla stock will perform over the long haul. The gain has not covered the full price of the car, but there is still another month for it to go up. If it hits that projected $109, I get a free Model S! Isn't that fun?

Tesla has the potential to disrupt the auto market with its design expertise, technology and manufacturing facilities:
1. Design is being optimized to reduce manufacturing cost. Automation, robots are being added. Reduce rework by increasing precision of assembly. Produce 25,000 cars/shift/year. 2 shifts and 50,000 Model S can be produced. Excluding the battery pack, the simple design car could cost about what a Honda Accord would cost = $25k. Even battery pack costs will come down with volume and tech maturity to $20K. ASP = $45k+25% gross margin for the 85kw model. That is mass market pricing at the mid end.
2. Rapid deployment of Supercharger tech. Forget the battery swap contraption. Free charing nationwide.
3. Rapid deployment of Model X and produce 50,000/year with 2 shifts. Cut costs. Free supercharger use.
4. Introduce hi end 500 mile battery. People pay for range. Panasonic is already shipping the batteries. Add fancy features that people want like smart cruise control, collision avoidance, park assist. Part of tech package. Got to pimp it up like S550, BMW 750, A8.
5. Tesla should have raised $1.5B at the expense of the shorts. We will get another chance.

The company does not need Gen III to sell 100,000 cars at $55-65k if the battery is adequate... 85 KW-hr is the minimum. With limited resources, Elon needs to concentrated at the decisive aspects of the business. Forget wasting $2M for a battery swap station. Most people charge at home anyway. 20 min at the supercharger is no big deal... especially of free! Why would I want to mess with a replacement battery and then worry about getting the original back? Want to keep my life simple, while the car is charging and I am having a snack after 3 hours of driving.

Bubba2000 -- well said. Swap is a marketing statement to the uninitiated that electric is better than gas and will be in your future. It is an important bridge to high speed supercharging not yet here. Swap is not the end game as you already know. There might be other long term strategic advantages elon is thinking about setting swat stations up....

It has been fascinating reading this thread from the beginning until now. Kudos to all the sage investors who got in early, rode out the rough course and broke the bank. If it gets into the $80 range, I'm going to load up and hold it.

Ladies and Gentlemen,

In behalf of State fund innovative technologies of Republic Kazakhstan I pray to provide the list of all necessary documents for conclusion of a contract and opening of official representation of Tesla Motors Kazakhstan on the territory of our republic.

Соoperation with our republic will provide your Company not only additional outputs to our market, but also it will give you possibilities for delivering of your electric Cars to following countries:

Russia (free export from Kazakhstan in terms of Custom Union)

All these countries are neighbors of our Republic.

Through state support of our project we are planning 20% reducing of car number with petrol and diesel motors and replacing them with electric Cars Tesla. We are also interested in Fast Charging Stations for electric Cars, we want to know the cost of spare parts and frame elements. If the personal meeting is necessary for conclusion of contract, I ask you to give date and time. To business ethics and partner I beg you to have talks about opening of official representation in Republic Kazakhstan directly with me.

Yours Faithfully,

Project Specialist

You persist in thinking the swap stations are a big expense and drag on production. Their costs are trivial by comparison, and an excellent marketing expenditure to drive demand even higher. Much better than spending the money on TV ads, etc., which is the usual.

Opinions on how the battery swapping option will affect the Tesla stock now?

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I was wondering... I read a few times on these boards that some of you were offered something, a percentage perhaps, to lend your shares to short sellers I assume. I have no experience with this and have never been offered, so could someone explain more about this and what you mean exactly. Thanks.

Elon tweeted partial recall, in case you missed it.

f**ck goldman sachs.....

What a short seller does is issue a guarantee to supply shares at the current price (when he first shorts the stock) at a certain time in the future. When that time arrives, he must now supply what was promised; if the stock has risen, he loses money by buying at market. So he asks for other holders to loan him some shares to cover his contracted sales. He is still counting on prices dropping. He is paying interest (high rates) to back this hope/wish/wager. If prices don't drop, he's stuck with a double hit, the price rise difference plus the interest on the borrowed shares.

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