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Tesla Personal Delivery thoughts

This thread could be a place to share thoughts and ideas about what we hope Tesla Personal Delivery could be. How about:

(a) delivered with license plate(s) or temporary sticker? Will the front license plate be installed (or not, as "would make us smile") as part of the TPD?

(b) how large a fleet of delivery trailers they will need? Could be quite a few if most of the 2012 5k/ 2013 20k owners choose TPD. The logistics here seem significant.

(c) how long would you expect to spend on your TPD? Training for the owner and spouse, obviously. Who else?

(d) where would you have your TPD that would "make you smile"?

@ dahtye, have a close look at that picture, and you'll see where Tesla talk about the difference between "standard" and "max range"

I'm going to call TMC on this, but you think there's any chance I can take "official" delivery" at the factory, then have my "Personal" delivery to Arizona? Had always thought I'd take delivery before the end of October prior to my leaving for my Arizona home Nov 1. Would be nice if I could just fly up and go to Factory for "delivery" then fly back and wait at our place in AZ.

Also, any ideas on how much flexibility there'll be on choosing the exact delivery date? Could November delivery be made into Dec 1 delivery?

Well, there is the one time deferment, though a month isn't a very long time for that.

If you take delivery at the factory, there are some California sales tax implications.

I live in California and am not trying to avoid CA sales taxes. But because I file my tax returns in CA and CA has a credit of some sort, I want to make sure I qualify. But would like my $900 delivery charge to be used to get the "S" to our AZ address for use this winter.

@William9 - Contact your Tesla rep and inform him/her what "delight" means to you.

Thanks Toto. This is very clear to me now.

@ Liz G – Pictures of the front license plate, exterior and interior of our Model S are located here:

You might need to go looking for the thread where Liz G. asked for those, because it wasn't this one.

While its not an issue for me, I gotta say I don't like the way that front plate is attached. Looks too much like an afterthought tack on piece to me.
R&B: what do you guys think? Does it look better in person?

The front plate is about as simple and unobtrusive as you can get. A solid back that that the plate screws onto. Like most things it's a matter of taste whether the simplicity is a positive or a negative. Personally, I think it's the best option. Others can buy a frame that goes around it if that's their preference.

@ Brian H - Liz G posted her request for pictures of the front license plate on this thread on July 14 (page 1 of thread).

Oh my gosh!!! Brian H goofs up? It can't be. The world must be coming to an end. ;)

@ Vawlkus – I would say the pictures are a pretty accurate representation of the license plate holder. It does look integrated into the design as the holder is shaped to fit flush to the complex curve of the black plastic front piece of the car and the plate seems to mounted at a natural height for the shape of the black oval front piece. Would the front of the car look better without the license plate and holder – yes. Could the license plate be mounted in a more pleasing fashion given the front design of the car – probably not.

IMHO the front license plate holder on Rod and Barbara's car looks well integrated and very nice, better than I expected. Their car is super sharp looking all around. Though I wish my state did not require it, I personally will be very happy with such a front plate holder.

Rod and Barbara | August 9, 2012
@ Brian H - Liz G posted her request for pictures of the front license plate on this thread on July 14 (page 1 of thread).

Right you are! Such a short post I scanned right by it.

I wonder if anyone will go with e.g. one of the aftermarket "fold-away" options. Might have some nasty Cd consequences for that nice smooth under-body airflow, though. Speaking of which, I wonder how much Cd effect the standard plate-holder has ...

Based on Rod and Barbara's picture, I don't see the airflow being changed all that much. However, if the mounting was curved so that you could form the plate around it that would help. (Vertically curved that is so that it matched the nose cone profile.)

Jerry, like the curve idea. To take it further it would be really nice if Tesla injection molded a nose cone that allowed the plate to fit flush. Or better reset it a bit and include a clear cover that restores the rounded shape with the plate behind it.

It is my understanding that the final delivery vehicle will be a pickup with a fifth wheel (gooseneck) open trailer that can transport two cars. Cars will be covered depending on distance. This 'rumor' is from the Denver store.

I wonder if the open trailer is because the model S is so freakin' wiiiiide?

Are you implying the Model S is fat? :P

aesthetically dead center is uber-mundane-bleh.
aftermarket design companies unite!

@R and B - you wrote some great posts on your delivery (thank you again!) but, looking back, are there any thoughts you have specifically about the Personal Delivery that you think could be improved? To help the rest of us, do you have any suggestions about how get the most from the delivery?

I think it is length, not width. the trailer is a ramp, if two cars are transported the forward wheels of the first car are over the back of the pickup. sample pic

Does anyone know the delivery cost? I live in southern CA and may fly up to Fremont so I can drive my Model S home.

"If you take delivery at the factory, there are some California sales tax implications."

@jerry3: Do you happen to know what those sales tax implications are?

@swmedland - all cars are charged a (currently) $750 "delivery charge". Tesla says if you choose to accept delivery at the factory instead of your location-of-choice you get a factory tour as a substitute.

@pilotSteve, that is cool and I would take advantage of that!

@swmedland, you like me, in California so the implications for us tax wise are the same. If you lived in Oregon or Nevada and came here to pick the car up for example, you would have to pay the tax for both states is how I understood it.

@Rod and Barbara
Thank you for posting the front license plate pictures.

Beautiful car. Can't wait for mine.

The Tesla Personal Delivery charge is $990. It doesn't matter if you take delivery at the factory or in Miami: There is an additional $180 tacked on for the services as described on the sticker.

California sales tax implications. The rules are set by the California Board of Equalization. Here is a link to the applicable publication if you want to wade through it:

1). If you live in California. You will pay sales tax based on where the car is garaged and used. For most of us, it will be based on our residence address. The current rate as of June 2012 is 7.25 percent plus any additional district sales/use taxes imposed by the taxing authorities where the car is registered as explained on page 28. The way I read one of the examples, if you take delivery at the factory, you still pay the rate in effect at the CA location where the car will be registered.
2) If you live outside California. There is a short paragraph on page 3 that doesn't get into specifics, but leaves me with the impression that you will pay CA taxes if you take delivery at the factory.
3) Trade-ins. From page 12: "the allowance for the trade-in cannot be excluded from the amount on which tax is based. For example, if you sell a car for $20,000 and accept a trade-in valued at $4,000 as partial payment, tax is based on the $20,000 selling price."

Rod and Barbara,

It appears you chose the Obeche interior trim. I could be wrong. If so, is that the gloss or matte finish? Are you experiencing any dashboard or interior reflection/ glare issues in the high noon sun? I'm still curious about interior surface flash with the Pano roof and my blue eyes. Thanks in advance.

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