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Problem With Basic 19" Tires

Has anyone had a problem with their tires? I went over a curb when parking going 5 mph max. Later I noticed a large "bubble" in the tire. Service is telling me that I caused it by going over the curb. The car was 2 weeks old. I don't know about you, but when simply driving you hit things faster than that.

That's pretty normal. I work with a woman that has ruined several tires running over short (4") curbs in parking lots. She also blewout a tire and bent a rim running over a 5" curb in a parking lot.

Which brand tires came on your Model S?

When I went over a curb a long time ago I considered it a single car accident.

It could be a defective tire warranties by the manufacturer. Some tires will do it without hitting a curb due to a weak spot in sidewall.

The problem is not with the plane. It is with the pilot.

The S is a VERY heavy car, which might be a factor to consider.
Other than that, the problem with the 19's is that they are not 21's.

@EJH

The 21"s are known to be the worse tires, even though they may look better.

I have 19's and hit a curb. Scratched the wheel, scuffed the tire. The car is heavy and wide, but it is still cockpit error. Suck it up, fix it and move on...more carefully. It worked for me.

The tires are Goodyear. I believe it was a defect in the tire, but Tesla doesn't agree. The problem is that I went over the curb with my front wheel and damaged it, knowing that was my fault. But my rear wheel never touched it. They say I must have. A tire specialist couldn't believe it could happen to a 2 week old tire.

@EJH,I wasn't thinking about the weight.
@bish, this pilot happens to be excellent!
@Newampster, that's what I did. Just wanted to see if anyone else had a similar issue.

@Dallas,

On this point I suggest that we agree to dis-agree, and enjoy our rides!

@ Sueftalman, my experience with all vehicles that I have ever purchased is that the tires are never warrantied by the vehicle manufacturer. Your tire was very likely defective, and if you want to come face-to-face with the biggest snakes in the grass, try to get the tire manufacturer to consider your issue as a valid claim.
I suspect that the amount of money that tire manufacturers pay out to individual vehicle owners is zero.

@EJH

I guess that would be why the Tesla website has this disclaimer warning:

21-inch wheels are equipped with low-profile tires that provide less protection from, and are consequently more likely to suffer damage from, uneven road surfaces, debris, curbs, and other common obstacles. Damage to wheels or tires from these conditions are not covered under the Model S new vehicle limited warranty. 21-inch with low-profile performance tires wear faster and reduce battery range compared to 19-inch wheels with all season tires. For best results, follow recommended tire maintenance including tire rotation. Model S does not come with a spare wheel and tire.

All I think we can agree on is, you like the 21-inch performance tires, and no matter how much more they cost or the implied superior brandname of the manufacturer in your mind means a better tire but, just as Tesla warns as well as manufacturers of both low-profile and standard walled tires warn, low-profile tires will last a shorter time, get fewer treadwear miles and may damage the tire and wheel more easily when encountering everyday road debris and damaged road surfaces.

I would have to conclude that the 21-inch tires are the worse of the two tires. IMHO.

Any DATA on 20 inch?

@ramtaz

20" wheels and tires not an option from Tesla obviously something your just putting together on your own?

What 20" tires are you using?

The 19" wheels/tires and 21" wheels/tires are chosen to have the same overall circumference so as to keep speedometer and wheelwell clearance the same.

Tire data would depend on which brand and what size tire on what width rim.

I think the speedo may be GPS. I have checked it against three different GPS devices and it is deadly accurate at every speed. Have never had a mechanical speedo this consistently accurate across the full spectrum of travel speeds.

@ramtaz - I expect to get about 750 miles on a set of 20" BFG g-Force Rivals. Of course, they are treadwear 200 and I am driving them hard at the track...

Aside from track use, obviously 20" is a middle ground between 19" and 21" -- a bit more tire between the pothole and the rim, a bit less sidewall to flex in the corners. Other than that, the biggest difference is going to be what rubber you put on them -- if you put all seasons, they will be closer to the stock 19" option, and if you put extreme performance tires they will be closer to the stock 21" option. You will be buying your own wheels, so you can choose whether you want a staggered setup or if you care more about being able to rotate them, and whether you want wider than the stock tires (be careful about fitment though).

@Roamer - I am pretty sure it is not GPS-based - that wouldn't work in a tunnel or in some urban canyons, or when you start up the car before it gets a satellite fix. It would also be inaccurate when traversing a long slope.


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