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Model S options

Let's discuss what options we need in the model S.
I can start by listing some luxury car essentials:
1. Rear view camera
2. Parking sensors
3. Adaptive cruise control
4. Highway lane departure sensors
5. Headlights turning with a turn of the wheel
6. Premium sound with capability to store MP3 songs
7. DVD video for back seats
8. Tire pressure sensors

Also looking for some electric car features like:
1. GPS to show electric driving range radius
2. Temperature of the batteries
3. GPS to estimate charge needed to reach destination
4. Instant efficiency measure of some kind (similar to instant mpg)

I don't find those essentials essential. I don't even know what "highway lane departure sensor" is.

Those electric systems OTOH are pretty common to all EV:s.

From Infinity web site:

Blind Spot Warning (BSW) and Blind Spot Intervention™ (BSI) Systems, BSW helps alert the driver to a vehicle detected in the blind spot area and the world's first BSI helps the driver bring the vehicle back toward the center of the lane.[*]

Forward Collision Warning (FCW). Using a laser rangefinder, this available feature helps alert the driver of an imminent collision by providing a visual and an audible warning.[*]

Intelligent Brake Assist (IBA). This available active safety feature continuously monitors and analyzes closing speeds to a vehicle ahead or to a stationary obstacle. If the driver does not adequately respond to the Forward Collision Warning and a collision cannot be avoided, IBA will automatically engage the brakes to help reduce collision speed and impact, thus mitigating the consequences of the accident.[*]

Lane Departure Warning (LDW) and Lane Departure Prevention (LDP) Systems, LDW sounds an audible warning when you start to drift out of your lane and LDP lightly applies the brakes to help ease you back between the lines.[*]


Apparently those are mean to be systems mitigating the fact that there are drivers that should never ever drive a car. People that know how to drive a car do not need those.

I think all of those systems actually make people drive worse. Someone once said that if we replace airbag with a menacing spike that points directly to your face, then there would be practically no head-on collisions. And those that do collide get an Darwin Award.

Timo,

Thank you for pointing out the fact that there are far too many people out their that deserve their own Darwin Award. Very funny. All of those systems just make drivers more lazy and would probably rob the car of some of it's range.

Can Eng

I would love to see run flat tyres.
iPhone connectivity.
Heated Seats

Run flats are nice - no need for a spare.

IPhone connectivity - should be standard these days

Heated and air conditioned seats - very common in modern luxury cars



Bottom line: if you want to sell a car competing with Lexus GS 350 or BMW 5 series, you better include all of the above.


Now, I don't say to include those for free. Feel free to charge whatever you want, but high end consumers want high end features!

I'm not sure iphone connectivity should be something that is even wanted, much less required. Some standard communication between your whatever personal tricorder and your car is obviously preferred, but does it have to be iphone specifically? IMO no.

Heated seats are standard. They are way more effective in heating than heating air for cold weather. Not sure about "air condition" for seats. AC is obviously standard. Heating the steering wheel would be nice. Maybe heated wind screen too? Small fridge in glove compartment and/or in trunk?

Heated seats, air conditioning, and that's pretty much ALL I'm after.

While I acknowledge the Model S is a luxury car, to me it's a luxury ELECTRIC car. The two are not necessarily the same, nor do I have the same expectations. Just the fact that it's a car I can afford, unlike the Roadster, that frees me from a TONNE of maintanence issues makes it enough of a luxury for me to enjoy. I mean, who doesn't enjoy the company of their own money? :)

Heated seats for front and back passengers would be ideal. USB/power outlet for front and rear seats. Cupholders, 2 in front and some in back.

Forced air AC through the seats is outstanding...my 2007 Lexus has it and I find it a truly great feature for warm weather travelling.

iPhone and other communications devices, hands-free or not, all multiply the likelihood of an injury-or-death-causing accident by about 4X -- except for a small percentage of the population who can truly brain "multi-task". Talking and driving share the same neural circuitry for most of us.

So be careful what you ask for.

Probably all those other safety features and more are going to be necessary if people are talking and surfing while driving. Maybe the Germans have the right idea -- I gather they're pushing hard for totally autonomous self-driving vehicles.

I can see it now: convoys of cars and trucks 10' apart whipping along the 'Bahn at 200kph ...

That is probably the future, cars that can drive themselves and communicate their movements between themselves.

10' is a bit too little though. You can't stop a truck fast enough at that small distance if the vehicle in front of you that is braking is a small car or motorcycle. No amount of computing power removes laws of physics, and accidents happen without it being fault of humans driving the car.

I'm happy with car that can drive itself as long as I can drive it too. KITT-configuration. I would not enjoy being in a car that doesn't understand command.

No prob with the braking, Timo; all slow down as quickly as the slowest braking link in the line.

But imagine if a malicious virus gets into the traffic computer, and decides to have a game of Mass-Smash-Up! A whole new meaning to "auto de fé"!

8-O

I was just thinking that what the Model S lacks in maintenance issues will be made up for in computer glitches. Then all auto-body shops will have to employ a few computer technicians. Just think; Geek Squad in Pep Boys.

i still fear the battery issue. Once the battery needs to be replaced, it may wipe out all the money we saved from the lower maintence. Thus, i start to wonder if i should have simply purchased another lexus and not be limited to where i can drive to. EV mfrs need to get the battery industry to help reduce the price of replacement batteries in order for the EV movement to really take off.

cheng

I haven't seen anyone mention a two door model. How about that? Obviously I like the idea. Am I a alone? :(

Any other variations are years away.

Me, I'm just waiting for the Model S to hit the market, and see where we go from here.............

While I don't need all those features, I do want them. I especially want 1-5 and 8 listed in the original post as they are additive safety features that can help protect good drivers. However, since several are features that would be a constant draw on the battery, I do not know if they are practical. When I discussed the issue of air conditioning with my local Tesla rep, he commented that the power it took to run the AC was inconsequential to the power it took to push the car around, so I suspect it is possible that these other electronics might also be relatively small draws—and maybe you could selectively turn systems on and off. Of course, if power were not an option, I would be happy to be able to wire in my Valentine One, K40 and Bearcat scanner! ;)

I sincerely hope that runflat tires are NOT considered. I owned a Lexus SC430 with runflats. The tires are so hard that the car sounded like a Mack Truck! First thing I did was replace them with a set of good high performance Michelin tires. Immediately, the ride was a lot smoother and the car a lot quieter.

Agreed. Runflats aren't something I'd be interested in. At best, all I've ever needed was a spray can tire re-inflator with foam patch.

I hope that ERW will be ready for the Model S as it shout improve range as well
http://www.youtube.com/user/EnergyReturnWheel#p/u/5/ovzcTE5jVYg

Wow, essentials? Really? A back seat DVD is "essential"? I really don't want to pay for most of that, uh...I'll be polite, stuff. I'm happy if it's an option for other people though if they want it.

Hard points for a very minimal, but very strong, elegant roofrack connection to carry toys. Last thing I want to put on a new car is an ugly black sport rack.

Not essential but good: 2. Parking sensors 3. Adaptive cruise control 5. Headlights turning with a turn of the wheel 8. Tire pressure sensors "9". intelligent key as nissan and renault and others. 1. Rear view camera? it dipend how expensive is
The others 4 I think normal for a EV

OK, ok, come on, knock it off. This is a serious drivers car. If you want a car that drives itself while you sleep go else where. Don't need any girly mans here!

Parking sensors? If you are too stupid to park, drive something else.

Back seat DVD?! When in the world did this become a minivan for carting creepy little kids?!Why would you want dirt, hand prints on leather, dog poop, and all the other things kids get into in your new Model S? No class baby, no class.

Let's keep it simple and affordable. Hey, who knows, with good sales of the Model S, maybe then they can make your self driving, luxo-spa-pool-ipod-gameroom-vehicle at triple the price you want......

OK, ok, come on, knock it off. This is a serious drivers car. If you want a car that drives itself while you sleep go else where. Don't need any girly mans here!

Parking sensors? If you are too stupid to park, drive something else.

Back seat DVD?! When in the world did this become a minivan for carting creepy little kids?!Why would you want dirt, hand prints on leather, dog poop, and all the other things kids get into in your new Model S? No class baby, no class.

Let's keep it simple and affordable. Hey, who knows, with good sales of the Model S, maybe then they can make your self driving, luxo-spa-pool-ipod-gameroom-vehicle at triple the price you want......

@Rod Donovan

This is still a family sedan Rob, I agree it should still feel like a drivers car but the 5+2 seats, those +2 jump seats are designed "for carting creepy little kids" under the age of 10.

@Rod this is a luxury sedan, it's also a tech toy. So I guess all the latest driving security things and luxory gimmiks will be in it, or at least upgradable. the targeted price for the standard option for the car is already out and they claim they are still on track. No need to fear that much happens to the price if you live in the US... yet.

And if you buy an electric car be ready to be named a girly man as a real man burns rubber *insert Tim Allen barks*

That girly man stays only as long as you keep the TC on. Take it off and pass one of the guys that named you at 60mph tires burning and it goes away.

After that all of them want the same car.

Dear!! Rod I do not think to be stupid if I like parking sensors, I simply think that for me a car is not a toy, is something I use every day for work. 40,000 miles per year, if I may have some confortable things I like to have them. And without saying stupid to anybody, not even to a macho man as you are


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