And i sold 3 weeks ago at 45 damn it !
It's been a week waiting for it to drop a bit but its going super strong !
The shorts are being squeezed big time. The earliest it will pull back significantly is right after the earnings release. I am sure the positive news is baked into the stock already at this point in time.
any ETA on this earning release ?
5/6 for earnings.
where do you guys get those info from ?
I use etrade. yahoo finance will show you everything you could want. Look at key statistics for short float, now 62%. company events lists the earnings announcement
My 2 cents: Don't expect a pullback on 5/6. Why? Because that's what everyone is expecting. Also, TM has a practical monopoly on the premium EV market and almost no one has noticed...yet.
On May 6, I think TSLA will likely perform the same way as Netflix did today after the market.
Let's hope it does, I missed the buying opportunity on netflix. Now I just need more Tesla shares
Just to be clear, the 5/6 data on yahoo is just an estimate. Tesla hasn't announced an earnings date yet. Last quarter yahoo estimated 2/11 and they ended up announcing on 2/20.
what happened to NEFLIX, confused...
TSLA at $50.19 Well, I guess this is the beginning of the "tsunami of hurt" for short sellers that was predicted late last year. Those folks had more than fair warning. I don't feel so bad for the ones that are still sticking around.
For Model S owners and Tesla investors (like myself), it's like having Christmas, followed up by my birthday! Thank you, thank you! Perpetual Tesla grin :)
Well, I just ordered 100 shares, and another 100 if it goes back down to 47. Now I just need to order a car and help the earnings report....
Good for you rdalcanto. We bought 100 shares at 31 so obviously we're feeling pretty good right now. Considering buying more, but unsure of where the stock is going to go in the next 6 months. Anyone have input on the subject? Would appreciate hearing from others. PS-Love my 60 kwh-what a buy, what a car!
Let me start by saying I don't know anything about stocks or the market. But, TREFIS PRICE ANALYSIS on e-trade suggests that the stock is over-valued by 19% right now. There could be a big correction back down to 40, but who knows. If we wait for 40 or 45 again, we might be waiting for ever.... I think TESLA will do o.k. if the big automakers don't jump in with a quality electric to compete with the Model S and X in the next few years. With their dealer networks and large size, if Ford, or a similar company, suddenly comes out with a similar vehicle, TESLA could be in trouble.
You can't really ask about what the price will be and go with it. It's something you have to look over and research and form your own opinion. I bought a little under $30 so I am pretty happy right now but I am in for the long haul although I did sell some for the down payment on my S.
I think it is going to get to $80 (still won't sell-long haul) but you should take that with a grain of salt because I am not an expert. It could be 4 years from now if Tesla gets the GenIII out at the price they say before another car maker then this might be a stock worth a fortune... like having the first shares in Coke or Pepsi or Apple. Remember that every single car maker except Nissan still say's the S can't happen and it has.
Things to think about. The state by state franchise bull. Super charger roll out. (must happen) Power source tech that eliminates the need to condition the battery. Tesla's only EV advantage.
A short squeeze might get me to sell. If Tesla gets into the 150-200 range (very unlikely) from a short squeeze I will consider selling because once the squeeze is over there is a good chance it will settle down a few months later to less at which point I'll buy it back. We can't leave the shorts in an upward spiraling curve forever can we? :-)
When received the Sig pefromance model in mid December my wife was very impressed with car. She said "remember in the 1980"s when we bought first Apple computer ( believe it was the IIE or something like that, very rudimentary) well we should have invested an equal amount in Apple stock. This reminds me of that". Now, I never buy individual stocks. But went ahead then and got several thousand shares, almost equal to price of car. And believe that my wife may be right. Stock gains may end up paying for car. And at any rate, do love this vehicle, waiting for Model X and have vowed never to buy another ICE car. Unless produced by Apple.
I am long because I think Elon Musk will make the right design, engineering and management decisions. Why? Because he has a track record of doing so with Zip2, PayPal, SpaceX and Tesla so far. In the short term, I think that Tesla has fine tuned their supply chain and manufacturing plant, while exceeding production forecasts. There is huge operating leverage here and the street is barely pricing these developments.
I expect demand to sustain with geographic extension of the market to include Europe. The SC network expansion will add value to the car. MS will be able to take most long trips. Then the market will expand from just hi end early adopters to "mass market" hi end customers that normally buy S550, BMW750, A8, etc.
The MS battery capacity may increase over time and features added and prices may come down to drive demand up. MX will increase demand too. Tesla could do well for the time being selling MS+X in moderate volumes like 50,000-100,000/year as prices come down with economies of scale and steady decrease in battery costs as capacity goes up. I am not even counting on money from GIII while holding the shares. I know the volatility will be huge and cause a lot of anxiety for shorts and longs.
@Sudre +1 @jdb +1
Definitely a long term hold. Think MSFT, AAPL.
Go all in long term and we can all win
I am saving %720/mo on gas in Canada 1.30 per Litre low-Grade Unleaded Gasoline so that is like 5.20 for 1 us gallon Now in the uk it is like 7.37 dollars per gallon or more European average fuel price per gallon 7.37 dollars per gallon or more its more I can go on but not now lol just get it and love it
Tesla just announced they'll release results on May 8th.
midnight in Germany- time for a post on this one. To all the bashers out there, still writing Tesla and EVs down: You don't have any idea. As stockholder I just think this.
If Tesla sells 20.000 Cars in 2013 Profit apr. 400 Mio P/E 20 Market cap 8 billion
If Tesla sells 100.000 Cars in 2014 Profit apr. 2 billion P/E 20 Market cap 40 billion
And this is just revenue from the S. Actually market cap 5.8billion
8 billion Stockprice 70$ 40 billion Stockprice 350$
Am I wrong? Answers- Questions- Suggestions? The question is: Do I get out, when I reach the full price of my S or do I go ultra-long-term for retirement later?
Whity Whiteman, I am doing my math a little different. I think that if TSLA deploys SC network in the US and Europe, demand will go beyond hi end early adopters to hi end regular customers. Add to that Model X. Then sales of 50,000 cars with ASP of $80k are possible. $4B in sales and $1B gross profits. $500M after overhead and research. PE of 25 and the stock is worth 100+ share even if there is some dilution to raise money and finance MX expansion.
The real big money comes in if the battery tech evolves and capacity double, but cost/KW-Hr drops by half. All kinds of new techs are being investigated. Then Tesla hits the mass market. Of course, competition will move in too. Like any other tech stock - MSFT, INTC, CSCO, QCOM, AAPLE - once the S-Curve growth is near the end, it is best to exit.
For now, I am happy with $50/s, but $100/s would be great. Got to have an exit plan.
FWIW, as far as I can tell, the entire planned Model S and Model X production, and the full profit off it, is already figured into the stock price. Stock buyers must expect Gen3 to be a success.
Agree with Bubba20000, mrspaghetti and church70. I plan to hold TSLA stock for long term, looking at at least until after receive Model X in 2015. Yes, there will be lots of volatility. But there was a lot of volatility in AAPL in 1980s and later. Put it away and forget about it for now. Enjoy the ride.
TESLA MOTORS, INC. 2013 Annual Meeting of Stockholders
MEETING DATE: June 4, 2013 RECORD DATE: April 10, 2013 CUSIP NUMBER: 88160R101 CONTROL NUMBER: 633871711239
ncn; Yes, success of MS and MX are being priced in -- but not as certainties. The different estimated likelihoods are the distinguishing factors determining at each price level who is a buyer and who is a seller. Except for those just playing the market as pure mob psychology. "Trend followers/exploiters". P/E ratios are just expressions of those guesses. BION, AAPL has a P/E <10!! In the same range as GM!! The first is a powerhouse, and the second is a dead company walking. Go figger.
About a week ago 31 million shares that were short, I think? Has the number of TSLA short shares decreased yet?
Short figures are published for the middle and end of each month, but with about a ten day delay. The figures for April 15 should be out in the next few days.
Here is my plan. I already have a position, but I am going to take the money that would have gone towards gasoline minus the cost of electricity for charging, and buy TSLA stock. In a number of years, if everything goes well, I will sell and use that to build my net zero house:)
Ah, don't feel bad. We all want to buy at the absolute bottom, and sell at the absolute top. I wish I could get daily delivery of tomorrow's newspaper. Pretty much 100% of the time your timing is guaranteed to be off...
Can't win every one. (I'm in the same boat) Hopefully, you did make a tidy profit though.
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