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Few Interior Wishes from a Sig Reservation Holder

Although I wasn't at the reveal - demands of a business plus a bit of a hike from Florida - the reviews of the exterior and ride all seem great. Ditto the reviews of the central monitor and functions. Can't wait for a test drive. But to compete with Mercedes, Audi and BMW (I'm a current Mercedes driver) I really want to express my vote for three items especially for Signature - better choice of leathers, an interior screen or ultra dark coating for the panoramic roof (for very sunny climes), and some modification to the central stack.

Personally, I think Tesla needs to include at least one darker brown leather than what i see to date - something like a saddle leather, or the cognac that mercedes offered on a special edition a while back, or the nougat brown of the Audi A7. A deeper or darker brown is just super looking with a white or red car. As for the panorama roof, I see that the website currently says there will be no interior screen. But admitting 20% of the solar load is twice what a good pair of sunglasses admit and that still gives plenty of light - which will almost certainly be a problem with that large screen and sunglare - something that can get annoying pretty quick in a place like Florida. It would be a shame to get a hard top in a place like Florida where having a sunroof on a nice winter day is delightful. Lastly, a someone who commuted 120 miles a day for quite a few years (not now fortunately), I may have a greater appreciation for properly placed armrests, cupholders, and storage than most. Here's a vote for a proper right arm rest where the cupholder is not compromised by the position of your arm, and a storage solution that is really practical. My old Mercedes e-class has a storage box that is cooled by the AC - great for keeping a snack on a long drive or something you just dont want to overheat.

I know much of the design is now hard coded, but here's hoping that at least someone will consider these opinions from a reservation holder who really wants no compromises in what appears to be a ground breaking and paradigm shifting auto... Thanks for considering these wishes....

Hi,

Conventional cars are greenhouses, so one doesn't have to be a Signature reservation holder to appreciate the fact that a car with a Panoramic roof without an adjustable screen has a serious design oversight in hot climates. I think that if Tesla releases the Model S without a screen, that eventually they will be forced to redesign the roof to add such a feature in later models.

An option for air conditioned seats and darker tinted windows would be useful features in Florida as well.

Larry

A/C seats ain't gonna happen, but they are reviewing the possibility of a cover for the pano roof.

@Mycroft

"...but they are reviewing the possibility of a cover for the pano roof."

The current Model S Facts webpage states:
http://www.teslamotors.com/models/facts

"The Panoramic Roof is optional. The state-of-the-art infrared coating reduces solar energy transmittance to 21% and visible light transmittance to 7%. It does not come with a shade."

Larry

The only reason they're revisiting the roof cover is the feedback they received at the big event, the beginning of Oct.

One of the engineers at the Oct event actually stated that they received a lot of requests for ventilated seats (I don't think actually cooled seats exist) and that they were considering it. I would love to see this feature in combination with the roof cover. It should really cut down on the AC usage the same way heated seats (at least for me) stop me from running the heat in the winter (Phoenix winter but still :) )

@Charged_Up

I second the motion. I too would like to see a saddle color interior available.

One thing that will REALLY help is the fact that it will have continues A/C or heat, even when the car is not occupied. This feature along will really reduce the need for ventilated / heated seats, as the car will always remain at a comfortable temp, even when it's been sitting in a open parking lot for hours unattended.
Regardless, I agree plush arm rest, good cup-holders, and really comfortable seats would be an HUGE plus in my book! I have a bad coccyx injury that really starts to hurt in a car seat with little seat padding. I don’t do well on long drives in small racing seats, so luxury is a huge must for me.

@TikiMan

"One thing that will REALLY help is the fact that it will have continues A/C or heat, even when the car is not occupied. This feature along will really reduce the need for ventilated / heated seats, as the car will always remain at a comfortable temp, even when it's been sitting in a open parking lot for hours unattended."

I think that the car will certainly periodically automatically condition the battery regardless of whether it is charging at home or left unattended in a parking lot. However, it would be wasteful to continuously and unnecessarily condition the cabin if the car was left unattended and not occupied for many hours. What would make more sense would be to have a timer set by the owner, when he/she leaves the car, and/or a remote smartphone application that permits the owner to initiate conditioning the cabin prior to returning to the car.

The intent of ventilated/heated seats would be to reduce energy consumption by greatly reducing the amount of energy used to condition the entire cabin.

Larry

The car will maintain its inside temperature for a while after it is parked (an hour or two?) and then it will shut off the AC/heat system. Using your smartphone on approaching the car can start it up again.

The panoramic roof is fantastic but it is essential to have a shade. Even in NYC, I sometimes close the panoramic roof on my car because the heat and glare are too much. Cranking up the AC doesn't make the heat on the side of your face go away and it can't help you see the screen any better.
But in all other respects the car looks beautiful. I am concerned about seat comfort as that would be a major turn off. Otherwise, styling is what it is. Trust me, I can live without a dark brown interior in the 1.0 version.

@Larry - "What would make more sense would be to have a timer set by the owner,"

It's simpler than that. Owner sets a range rather than a timer -- "when I'm within ___ feet/meters of the car, engage temperature management".

You'd probably want other settings like "when I'm not at home", etc.

... but setting a specific timer seems so ... crude. ;)

Yet another twist: "Engage temperature management unless there is only ___ range left in the battery."

And by the time the Model S2 comes out...

"Engage temperature management when you know I want it."

Nicu;
Are you sure you want your car to know you that well?
;D "Nicu! Not the pub, again! That's four times this week. You always drive weird after you go there."

LOL

Nicu, you look like you could use a drink.
Yeah, you're right about that.
It's happy hour down at the Cock and Bull, or we could just go to your usual.
Hmm, Cock and Bull sounds good.
Course laid in on the GPS. I've avoided the route past your house, so your wife won't notice you as we go buy.
Merci!
You're welcome, Nicu. I'll auto-pilot home afterwards, if you don't mind.
Handy upgrade from Google, wasn't that?

You guys forget that Model S will ask you about places if it's home or work. But if you want the thing to get weird, it just need to integrate well enough with Siri (the AI agent on the new iPhone). She says some bizarre stuff already!
http://shitthatsirisays.tumblr.com/page/12

Dark brown seats are great even in black. Yes, the Nougat Brown from Audi looks great and goes well with their Black exterior. Light brown shows dirt and people are looker for other options that black interior.

Two thumbs up for dark brown leather !

Signature 482

So you would forgo the Signature red?

Mycroft, on the Sig red are you referring to exterior or interior?

Signature red is the exterior color that is limited to the Sig edition cars. You can only get it with a Sig.

I'm not sure that dark brown interior would go well with the deep red of Signature red. I think light tan or white interior would be the best match for red.

Exactly manthos! :-D

Decent comments from everyone... interestingly mostly irrelevant to me! I strongly prefer light-colored interiors, so I'm getting white. Since the car has climate-control even when parked (if you so choose), and I never use sunroofs anyway, and my fiancee is photosensitive, I'm getting the solid matching-colored top, so no comments from me on the moonroof!

Cupholder positioning is subtle and important. Also hard to get right. The best one I've ever dealt with was in the location where the touchscreen is in the Model S, so that's out. :-P

To be a luxury car, it MUST have very comfortable seats, no pressure points, very plush and very adjustable.

One feature I consider essential but not mentioned anywhere is the provision of a foot support for the left foot. Most uncomfortable to drive without one, and so basic - not an electron in sight to offer this. Easy to implement.
Also i consider provision of sunglasses storage either overhead or in the console to be absolutely essential - if necessary do away with a cup holder for this. Drinking and driving is a dangerous and bad habit anyway. What if the coffee is unexpectedly hot?

One feature I consider essential but not mentioned anywhere is the provision of a foot support for the left foot.

I think you can clearly see a foot rest in the very beginning of this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TF0gGnBqF0


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