Anyone notice the performance plus package. Upgraded linkages etc.
Pack Performance Plus
Performance Plus upgrades an already impressive handling car by stiffening key suspension linkages and tuning dampers to increase lateral stiffness without compromising ride. 21" wheels with wider rear rims and Michelin Pilot Sport SP2 tires channel these improvements to the road. The result is nothing short of amazing-light, responsive steering with minimal body roll. It's a performance junkie's perfect daily driver
It's been known that Elon's personal car was a test for these upgrades. I wonder if there will be an option for current owners to get this upgrade.
@JZ13 - Ditto. I just barely got the car last week! This is a real bummer. I really hope they prepare something for existing owners. Like a rim trade in or something?
Would be nice to be able to get an upgrade for existing cars. That is the one fault I have with my S, is body roll.
Agree, I have P85 with 21" wheels, and despite the advantages of low center of gravity, the car does have a higher degree of body roll than I would like when making quick lane change maneuvers or cornering. Starts to feel just a little unstable at very high speeds. Didn't see this option when I got my car, although not sure it's worth that much money to me personally.
When I go to "MyTesla" I see that I have the option to add this performance package. And if I do add it the red mark on the active air suspension turns grey.
So what does that mean? Can I have Performance package with the active air suspension or will the Performance package mean I do not have active air suspension?
There are lots of ways to insure stiffer suspension and less body rolls. One way is to tighten up all linkage in suspension - often done by adding those small suspension bushes made from Polyurethane rather then those standard soft rubber ones that often ship with a car.
I struggle to understand if this Performance Package is like a complete set of coilovers, or if Tesla will tighten the active air suspension? While I enjoy speeding blitzing fast at curvy roads as much as the next guy I also learned to value everyday comfort - and I thought I was making the right choice by choosing active air suspension - cause those will let med choose a mode that suits my mood or driving style.
Seeing this performance package I am not sure what to go for. Maybe if someone understand what Tesla means by "Performance package" you could explain this to me - like you would explain it to a 4 year old child.
It seems to me that Active air suspension is part of the package because it is still checked. It is just that you cannot un check it. So the ride should still be good.
I hate to say it but I'd buy it:) I have a decked out P85 and love it but if there's a performance lack versus my M5 its the crisp turn-in. Not that the low CG as others have mentioned means it wallows but it still takes a bit to come around. Also anyone else think a little plus sizing on the rears would help push her into corners?
Definitely agree on rear tires/wheels. Feels a bit squirrelly on high speed turns with all that wait loaded onto the rear tires. If there is a way to get a SW upgrade to the perf+ package for the suspension of my perf that would be nice but first thing would be just to upgrade the rear rims and tires to the new set.
Anyone yet know what size the new wider rear tires will be?
weight weight, don't tell me
Thanks for correcting before BrianH :-)
@gimp_dad BrianH is a kick I couldn't help myself I'm lurking here at the forum(s), more now that my VIN date grows near (...waiting for my red MS)
prytog, you're going to love the car. It's truly a modern miracle and a kick to drive. I have now had mine for 8 months and still love to drive it every time I get in. I have several cars and avoid driving all of them whenever I possibly can. It's amazing how simultaneously versatile and fun it is to drive.
torst; one post only, please.
Info I received after emailing tesla customer care (EU):
We are delighted to offer an additional Performance upgrade for Model S. This option further enhances vehicle suspension and driving dynamics. This option will be available soon. The availability of a retrofit for vehicles that have already been configured and booked is pending. Details to follow.
Performance Plus, Pricing: to be announced shortly
The Performance Plus suspension tune was developed with the driver in mind. The re-tuned dampers add a very comfortable, yet firm ride that help to transform the Model S into a driver’s car. The dampers work with an updated rear suspension, which boasts an array of new bushings that increase the lateral stiffness and help to spice up the back of the car without compromising comfort. The steering response comes as a direct effect of the dampers and bushings, reducing the delay between the driver input and the vehicle response. This brings you more in tune to your Tesla, and the road beneath it. To tie your Model S Performance Plus to the road, the 21” wheels are wrapped in larger Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 tires on the rear, which helps the driver unleash what the Model S Performance Plus is truly capable of; precision handling that allows the driver to maintain a desired trajectory without any correction.
Below is a list of upgraded components and how they help to create the Model S Performance Plus:
Stabilizer Bars – In a typical “performance car”, large stabilizer bars can corrupt the steering and degrade the ride; but not in Model S Performance Plus. Thanks to our low center of gravity, we have increased the stabilizer bar size front and rear without the negative side effects, allowing greater body control and more predictable handling.
Damping – Tesla’s philosophy on damping is to maintain good handling behavior with good control, while also adhering to a supple ride. The damping characteristics available on the Performance Plus help to bring feedback from the road to the driver to enhance your driving experience, but still manages to encompass road undulations with ease.
Bushings – Tesla focused their attention on increasing lateral stiffness at the rear suspension to improve steering and overall vehicle response. This has been achieved by new and improved compliance characteristics throughout the suspension, thus allowing the springs and dampers to work more efficiently.
Tires – Performance Plus sports new Michelin Pilot Sport 2 tires on a wider rear wheel, which allows its higher performance threshold to take advantage of the improved lateral stiffness of the car.
I know that there are still information pending, but as soon as we have them, I will get back to you and send them to you.
Seems like a comparatively small number of components to justify the $6.5k price tag. Anyone care to guesstimate how much margin Tesla makes on this upgrade?
The price tag is only $3k as it includes the $3.5k 21" grey wheels.
I believe there is $3500 of that in the 21" wheels and tires. So real cost is more like $3000.
While there is 3rd parties that offers Polyurethane bushes like powerflex et.al you have to take into account that if you do find a company that offers bushes that will fit your Tesla you still need to pay a garage hourly rate to retrofit them onto you car - not to mention the cost of a wider set of rear rims and a wider set of rear tires. I think the price of 6.500 is fair. And I fur sure will get this performance package. Think of it as M-package from BMW or the AMG package for Mercedes.
As always when you purchase something stock on a car you pay a premium - take the sat-nav and stereo on most cars. If you shill out the same amount of money on a quality aftermarket set you probably get more bang for you bucks. Looking only on navigation or sound quality might be better then the factory option, but it also make your car NOT in original state.
I think it is fine to pay some extra $ for a broader option list. Heck I would pay even more to have other options like AWD, ventilated seats, etc. By adding things as an option I will enjoy my car more, I will have the pleasure of knowing the car is still in original state and finally it will probably make the easier to sell when that day arrive. And also by paying a little extra for the added options you help Tesla better their bottom line and that is a great thing.
If the final cost is $3000 for the upgrade, then what do you do with the current REAR tires/wheels (they are WIDER in the Perf Plus Pkg)? Trade them in to Tesla?
@torst1 Good point. If it is more like an M or AMG package, then I wonder if the rear emblems would be updated as well to signify this. Not sure what it would be...PP85? P85+? (assuming that the configuration is a P85 model)
I'll be doing this upgrade when it becomes available!
@shop Count me in too. Nice to see that they are working on a retro-fit version of it. I wonder if the price will be similar (not including the extra rims). I also wonder if the rolling circumference will be the same for the new rear tires and rims. If so, they will have to be even lower profile tires (like 30's or 25's) in order to be wider.
I am also wondering if they are only going to offer the wheels in grey. I have the perf package with the silver rims. If the perf+ is only offered in grey I will have to get rid of a whole set rather than just the rears.
Darn, now I have another thing to wait for...
The upgrade is $ 6,500 and you are not getting a penny back. I spoke to a customer service today. The upgrade just take your wheels and tires for free and give you this package for $ 6,500. I don't think it's worth it.
I meant TM ( not upgrade ) , sorry for misprint.
@ylyubarsky Well would you buy a BMW without the M-package? I for sure would not. And when you one day will sell your car it will be much easier to sell for good money if you get the performance package. Cause others will pay extra for a true drivers car.
So no core charge on existing sway bars or bushings? If so I'd keep my rears myself as replacements for the front right? Also another fun twist how does the wheel and tire policy map:) Hope it applies after up sizing the rears.
I'm currently working on upper suspension arms to reduce negative camber in the rear of the car. I've enjoyed being able to swap tires front to rear to help manage inside shoulder wear and use up all four tires evenly before replacing (with another brand).
The bushings have been a real pain and I have considered using after market parts. It will be interesting to see what Tesla is using. Having different sized rims would only increase my tire bill and thus is less appealing. Increased dampening would be nice and increased diameter on the sway bars is a no-brainer.
gimp; That's not a retrofit, that's configured but not yet built.
jeroens; Informative letter. But it may interest you to know it was written in English by a non-native speaker. "there are still information pending, but as soon as we have them, I will get back to you and send them to you." 'information' is a noun with no plural. There are no "informations", so the writer cannot send "them" to you.
Badges are so not cool. Bimmers with M badges are - well lame. If you got it no need to flaunt it :)
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