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Why have SuperCharger completions slowed to a halt?

I am getting pretty nervous about the recent slow down in supercharger completions. The Super chargers rate of completion has always been a good sign to me that things are going good and sales are proceeding as expected. We were seeing 2 or 3 stations completed per week for the last few months. And now, even with an ambitious plan to complete many more stations by the end of the year, completion of charging stations have come to a halt.

Anyone have an explanation for this? Possibly they had to use some of the charging station money to implement the titanium shields under the car?

It's not lack of money, they have plenty. It's curious to me too
That for weeks there is no advancement.

I believe the top priority was a route across the country West to East and North to South on the West Coast. That's done.

Didn't one of the execs say there were more under construction then there were open? Jerome maybe. About two months ago.

Looks to me like the only new ones we are seeing are those that were in the pipeline in January.

Summer is just around the corner and a lot of Norwegians want´s to drive around a SuperCharged Europe to have a rolling exhibition of this wonderful car.

Come On Tesla - Let´s Go!! :-)

Per drax7: Maybe there is some new technology brewing, faster charging maybe, and they don't want to put in old equipment that will need changing out.

Or, and please may this be true, Tesla feels that the Superchargers along selected major routes, supplemented by trickle chargers mounted on posts in front of mom and pop business, have served their purpose.

Now, hopefully, there are plans and deals being made for a far wider and more convenient charging network and this is what they are concentrating on from now on.

Someone has done an amazing job with this website: http://supercharge.info/

From here, you see there are 8 sites under construction and 8 more going through the permit process.

That said, I agree things have slowed down too much as well. If someone thinks there is new technology to pump out even more energy, then I think going slow righ tnow is not worth it. This is mainly because the charger starts to slow down after about half way through. So to get to about 75% on what current technology, vs something newer, isn't going to be that big of a difference.

Three things come to my mind for reason of slow downs:
1. Permitting / Political pressure/"red-tape"
2. Potentially looking for sites that can accomodate much larger energy loads per site (i.e. not just 4 stalls, but 10-12)
3. Potentially looking for sites that can accomodate larger location for battery swaps, along with charging

And hopefully potentially looking at solar panels at future and existing sites to run the cars on the sun.

HiteshBhatt:
Three things come to my mind for reason of slow downs:
1. Permitting / Political pressure/"red-tape"
2. Potentially looking for sites that can accomodate much larger energy loads per site (i.e. not just 4 stalls, but 10-12)
3. Potentially looking for sites that can accomodate larger location for battery swaps, along with charging

I think you can add a really cold winter for a good part of the country

It has slowed to a crawl, would be nice to see it pick up again so when X is released, charging stations are already in place.

Think of it: An automobile company also builds its energy source (superchargers) and its gas tank (lithium ion batteries) while fighting states that want it to die. Its pretty crazy isn't it?

Bureaucratic sabotage by NADA. Full-court press.

Well, two more are live as of today:

http://supercharge.info/?Page=charts

Cranberry, PA
Richfield, UT

Where is the evidence that they are slowing or stopping supercharger installations? Further if there actually is evidence of this, don't forget there is a whole world of Tesla Superchargers out there to build now.

they have been at a consistent, steady rate since the cross country route was completed. Look at the graph on supercharge.info.

That's right. And they are putting them in the rest of the world also. They are doing fine.

I live in Miami, the most populous city in the state. Not one supercharger in site.
Winter is not an issue here, and there are tons of model s on the road. What
Is going on? No more excuses .

Drax, are you serious? Superchargers are installed along trunk routes so people can drive long distance and charge. They don't put them in cities. I'm getting sick of oil company trolls trying to undermine Tesla.

Yea Drax; you oil company troll! :)

More and better charging solutions = more Teslas. Fewer and less capable charging solutions = fewer Teslas.

Therefore it is clear that those who adamantly support the fewest possible capable charging solutions are actually the oil company trolls disguising themselves as Tesla supporters.

carlgo;
Fewest possible => maximum usefulness, most efficient. For any given number of stations. As the gaps fill in, a few 'extra' redundant stations will appear. NBD.

Drax has a point. An SC is needed south of Fort Lauderdale near I-95 and I-595 so you can either continue south toward Miami/Key West or west to the other side of Florida on I-75.

It is on the future installation map, but nothing yet. I hope they start soon.

@drax7 does NOT have a point, @auger. There are two superchargers within range of Miami- one on the west side and one on the east side of florida.

So his statement that there are 'none in sight' is silly.

There are many current SCs in cities--six alone within a small radius in the NY/CT area and Chicago, too. Perhaps, the SCs are there because, like Miami, those cities have a high concentration of multi-unit dwellings. If their experience is anything like mine, installing an outlet is next to impossible. That's a very large, dense potential market for Tesla that can't charge at their residence, and won't consider a Tesla without a convenient or, at least, quick way to charge.

I think you're taking his "none in sight" comment a little too literally, but one is still needed near I-95 and I-595 (N of Miami and a little over 100 miles from the next two nearest SCs.) Tesla seems to agree since one is on the future SC map in that general vicinity.

Otherwise, good luck with your drive to the Key's from the nearest SC now.

There are superchargers around NYC because it is a way point from Long Island to go west; from New England to go south; and from Washington DC to go north.

Those superchargers are not in daily spitting range for commuter charging. Nor should they be. It's not good for the battery to supercharge too frequently; and for a car driven 15000 miles per year, to use 5000 kWh of Tesla-provided power every year (charging solely at the Supercharger) seems to me like an abuse of the service.

The island of Manhattan is densely served with level 2 chargers for those unable to charge where they park.

It looks like we mostly agree, except substitute your NY location and N, S, and W directions for SE Florida. The road does not end in Miami. However, you say it is an abuse of service for commuters in one sentence and OK for those unable to charge at home in another. Your Manhattan sentence is exactly what I said.

Look, I'm new here, and I'm guessing there's probably a long history between regulars. I view the few forums I visit as a place to exchange information rather than a vehicle to argue on the internet. I do have a hard time fathoming the anti-super charger faction, though.

Clearly, I am in the wrong place. I'm just going to go back to my blissful ignorance enjoying my Tesla--the best car on the road.

Still at 82. Been there for over a week. At least that is what the SuperCharger page says. And that is what I go by.

Miami in Dade county is most populous in Florida, we lack a supercharger
In the vicinity. Who cares about Naples and north of palm beach, tesla needs to
Install one here on i95 and now. No more excuses it can only increase sales.

Miami is full of teslas, there is no reason not to install one within 20 miles.

I have been long tesla since the mid 30s, tesla is not all knowing.
Tesla should listen to my suggestion and install a SC station in
The vicinity. To the ones claiming otherwise, how could you possibly
Know the local terrain better than I do.

People in Miami are into fancy cars., you see so many Ferrara and lambos and
BMW and Mercedes and bentleys and Rolls Royce
All the time. People here are into expensive cars.
The tesla show room is always busy.

Open a SC station in the vicinity, Just do it.

Patience is a virtue.

The Tesla Supercharger Network will be expanded, just be patient.

The official 2015 Supercharger map is not the final situation. Even after 2015, there will be more Supercharger stations realised.

A few new Supercharger stations realised somewhere on the globe every month (at least 1) is already a good sign of progress. That means that they are working on it. And that is good. Let them take their time to do things right. They know what they are doing.

In The Netherlands we have 2 Supercharger stations. And we are happy with them. Although we would like a few more, we will just patiently wait until Tesla Motors are ready to place them. More people should do the same, I think.

@drax7,
There's probably no question but that you understand the terrain around Miami better than most of us. Unfortunately, you don't appear to understand how EVs or Superchargers work.
They are not for daily charging of your car. You charge you EV at home, while you sleep, or at work, while you work, wherever you park.
Even Superchargers charge too slowly to be worth sitting around, waiting to fill up, like one does with gasoline.
Tesla's Superchargers aren't there so that people don't have to install a charging station at their home.
If people can afford an expensive, car, they can spend, at most, a few $thousand more to install an electrical outlet at their house, apartment, condo, vacation home, or workplace garage for their daily usage.
Most Tesla owners spend more money on their sound system than on their home charger.
It appears to me that one can easily get to anyplace from Miami in even a 60 kWhr Model S, using the existing superchargers enroute. Tesla should invest their resources (and mine, as a TSLA shareholder) today putting them in places that aren't already well served by Superchargers.
You could probably help by calling hotels, restaurants, and municipalities in the Keys, encouraging/helping them to install public Level 2 charging so that Miami residents can charge while there to get back home.

Just like LA and San Fran and Chicago and NYC have supercharges in the vicinity,
Miami should too. They need to get a top operations research engineer to max the
Location of the superchargers , given the constraints they have.

There is nothing that I could possibly not understand about the location
Of the superchargers. Miami is the most popular destination in
Florida, just get one near by. Plus there is enough sunshine here to
Power whatever demand may come via solar panels.

Tesla supercharger logistic person is probably inept.


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