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This car is a STEAL!

I took delivery last Friday, P85, black/black, loaded. Like the rest of us, I spent an inordinate amount of time on the blogs, devouring all I could in anticipation of The Event. I really did not intend to write about my getting my car as I didn’t think more could be said.

Then I took delivery in Austin, Texas and drove it 200 miles home to Houston. Over the weekend I put another 200 miles on it and I have to say this car is, without doubt, the best money I ever spent.

More than that, this car is very seriously a bargain! My garage has in it a ’96 911 Carrera 4 and an ’08 M5. They pale in comparison. ( and will soon be sold! ) That Tesla, starting flat-footed, could bring to market a machine this revolutionary, this extraordinary, this f’in’ FAST at this price is astounding to me and a testament to Mr. Musk and his team.

Thank you Tesla! Never apologize for the price! There is nothing even close for the money… nothing.

When I was a punk kid, I had sports cars. Got my license yanked and spent 7 years on an Allstate indemnity policy. I haven't had a ticket in 15 to 20 years. I allways drive with the cruise on as the best protection from speeding tickets. And if you're behind me, it sucks to be you, because I'm not taking the ticket for you. I like the Tesla cruise since it will also slow down on hills, which normal cruise in my ice cars will not do.

So I could with a staight face tell him I didn't know, but the manufacturer claims... Did tell him the zero to 60 on the S-60, and told him I would like to get it out on a closed course and see what it would do.

Having said all that, since I don't many any noise, and the tires won't spin with the traction control on, how fast I get to the speed limit is my own business, yes? And I do enjoy that little pleasure... : )

Bloody fast is my answer; want to see? (cops included as most have a sense of humor).

@ Superliner

I notice the same thing about all car ads seeming pathetic and obsolete... I must have been saying it under my breath every time I saw an ad because my wife finally asked me to stop it already!

I keep thinking 'they are grasping at straws... I feel sorry for the poor fools who buy the "all new" POS...'

Has anyone noticed that STEAL and TESLA are anagrams?

rzitrin +1

Troll! Troll!

There was an article I read today on the Market Oracle UK financial site that remarked that If Tesla Motors had included all of the R&D money that they have expended in bringing the Model S to market, that the cars should have been sold for $200,000 instead of $50-80K.

So if you think of it that way, the cars really are a steal in that us early adopters got them for far less than they are worth in terms of their overall development cost.

The overall article wasn't flattering to Tesla, but it was an interesting perspective.

I used to pine over big luxury cars. 7 series, S class, XJ etc. Now all I ever think in my head is "too bad it's not electric". I wanted an Aston Martin since I was 16 or so. Now I'm telling my buddy who is actually in the market for one "Don't do it, get a Tesla!"

I can't begin to tell you how odd of a feeling that is. But I guess that's why it's truly disruptive. I told one person at work about my order, and now just about every other person in the hall asks when it's coming (EE's). I have a feeling I'll be giving a lot of rides to lunch in the future.

A few weeks ago I leafed through the March issue of Car And Driver. There was a blip about new car patents - actuators mimicking manual transmission, automated rev-matched downshifts... started thinking of possibilities, then a second later realized: how utterly utterly irrelevant....

Cold day today, walking up from LAX practice with my daughter. One of the moms was in sitting in her car, engine was running so she could be warm. I'm seeing and smelling the exhaust, listening to the sound, and thinking, damn, how freaking obsolete ICE is.

?? The R&D money came from either loans or investment, and over time profits from sales will "retire" the obligation. The results of the R&D are not the cars produced so far, but the tech and know-how that permit production into the indefinite future. That's the time period which is pricing-relevant.

Brian H, Yes, but I think the point was that we get the benefit of it all today, on day one :)

Very nicely put. I've lived, breathed and loved most anything with an engine all my life. Now the Zero sits next to the S1000RR and the little yellow sports car next to the Tesla. You have to use the ICEs to keep the batteries charged and I'm having a hard time doing it.

If Elon can do a 1175lb all carbon +/-14G mono wing plane I'm done for. That is the last bastion for the petrol head in me.

@Superliner & 100year old gas car tech

Well it's not like electric vehicles are a new thing

It's just the first time in a while someone did it right, and I certainly love tesla for doing so. And I do think it will get a big share in city driving and people like me who hardly ever do more than 250m round trips.

Still I don't think the battery concept is the ideal thing for long trips. I know they get lighter and better and cheaper and so on. Still batteries are heavy and need a lot of stuff to be built. Hydrogen looks way more promising for the long range case. It also can be produced locally and can be refilled.

But I totally agree with all, the CHANGE is comming :)

We get the benefit up front, but do not come near to exhausting it. Any capex or expense is allocated over the period of the benefit, and that is indefinitely long for most fundamental R&D Tesla did. The patents, e.g., last just 17 years, but the head start they afford has a long trajectory.

Absolutely. I was just happy to get it on MY car :)
It is so nice to see a company actually engineering and creating (long term) value for its customers and itself.

We gave our son our Volvo XC wagon when we ordered the MS. My wife has a Nissan Rouge 4 cly.

LOL when I go from the P85 to driving the Rouge …. it feels like I’m "not moving” when I hit the accelerator!!!!! Maybe a <5 sec 0-60 as a knock around car is necessary :)

Parked next to a brand new Bentley yesterday. Must have been well in excess of $220K. Got out of my P85, looked at it, and thought that if this guy offered me a straight up trade---i would turn him down in a split second. I too, have lost all interest in Motor Trend magazine. On another note, took a friend on a test drive last week--and I am expecting a threatening call from his wife any day now.

A quick flip on Ebay, and you could afford 2 MSes! But it would take a few months to get them delivered, so ...

This old thread puts things back in perspective.


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