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Good Charging Hotels

(Edit) Schlermie and dbfish have created a spreadsheet, form, and map to enter and view hotel charging information. Even if you add a location to this thread, please also add it to the spreadsheet, using the form.

The spreadsheet can be found here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkRSfuwpy2DXdDZlYWtjS3BZN0Q....

The entry form can be found here: http://www.google.com/url?q=http://bit.ly/Z2e5ZA&sa=D&usg=ALhdy2_e5TADHV....

The map can be found here: http://www.google.com/url?q=http://goo.gl/maps/5o86c&sa=D&usg=ALhdy2_vcj....

And here is another version of the map that includes a link for the form:

http://dcubed.com/evmap/

Thanks. (end edit)

I have been complaining that there are no good apps or websites that help us find places to stay that have usable charging facilities. If I were ambitious, I would try to create such a site or spreadsheet (I don't know how to create an app). However, until that happens, I thought I would start a thread where people can list hotels, motels, RV parks, etc., where you can stay overnight and easily charge your Model S. Please include enough detail to make the list useful. I'll start with a couple of places out west, and bump the thread periodically by editing this first post with additions.

1. Seven Feathers Casino Resort and Truck & Travel Center in Canyonville OR, south of Roseburg. Owned by the Umpqua Indian Development Corporation, this facility is about halfway between Seattle and SF. The hotel is good quality and inexpensive, plus the company has several other places to stay nearby, along with five restaurants, entertainment, and other recreational opportunities. The truck stop is across the highway, accessible by a free, 24 hour shuttle. It has a free 70 amp Roadster charger (adapter required for S), a free 30 amp Aerovironment charger, and a CHAdeMO DC fast charger. The adjacent RV park also has NEMA 14-50 outlets, but I believe there is a cost to using them.

2. Heathman Hotel, Portland OR. Located in downtown Portland, the Heathman is a luxury hotel with all the amenities. A pair of Blink level 2 chargers is located in their garage. I have not used these chargers (I HAVE stayed in the hotel, and it is really nice), but I was told that a charging spot can be reserved by guests. I booked under an AARP rate, and parking was free, but there would otherwise be a cost to parking as well as using the Blink chargers. I don't believe these chargers are listed in ReCargo or the other apps.

3. Paso Robles Oaks Hotel, on Highway 101 between LA and SF. See thread started by Hills, http://www.teslamotors.com/forum/forums/charging-101-halfway-between-sf-....

4. We found this hotel well situated in Novato. The restaurant is great, the hotel is okay and the staff couldn't have been more helpful. Even put up cones to reserve the charging station. It's only a J1772 (ChargePoint) but it sure saved our skin when we wandered too far from home.

Inn Marin
250 Entrada Dr, Novato, CA
(415) 883-5952

5. The Hyatt at Indian Wells, CA. They have a 14-50 in their valet parking area. $25 bucks to valet is alot cheaper than a tank of gas!

6. Salt Lake City UT: Hilton Salt Lake City Center has a NEMA 14-50 in their valet parking area.

7. La Jolla, CA (near San Diego): Hotel La Jolla has a NEMA 14-50 around back for guests, 7955 La Jolla Shores Drive La Jolla, CA 92037 http://www.hotellajolla.com/

8. North of Baltimore, MD: Residence Inn and Fairfield Inn, White Marsh has a park-and-ride across the street with several Chargepoint Level 3 J-1772 connectors.

9. KOA at Circus Circus in Las Vegas, NV is next to the hotel. They charge a 24 hour "storage" fee of $20 plus tax to park in a paved RV space and hook up to the NEMA 14-50. No overnight sleeping in the car allowed!

This must be one the top ten requests. I'm looking for one near Riverside (LA) in October and am thinking about making the case
for a NEMA 14-50 installation with one of the hotel there. San Diego too.

Looking for a hotel in Napa or Sonoma. Seems like the Metitage is the only one that keeps popping up in searches. Surprised hotel or B&B owners aren't doing more to attract us.

Still waiting for my Model S but my family has been exploring the Bay Area with our Ford Focus Electric. We found this hotel well situated in Novato. The restaurant is great, the hotel is okay and the staff couldn't have been more helpful. Even put up cones to reserve the charging station. It's only a J1772 but it sure saved our skin when we wandered too far from home.

Inn Marin
250 Entrada Dr, Novato, CA
(415) 883-5952

Yes, I've eaten at Ricky's Restaurant, which is right there. I believe the station is ChargePoint.

This is not exactly what this thread is about but close.
An idea for you folks to chew on.
I think that at some point we as a group (along with other EV owners) should focus on a few multi state hotel chains and get them to put chargers in all of their hotels. That way everyone would know that a particular hotel chain has chargers.
I believe that there is a huge potential market in the years to come for hotels. It would be a ready made marketing plan for the chain that adopts this first and they would have a captive market (us) for a while until the others figure out that there is money to be made offering this service too.
I would want these chargers to be a least a 10Kw capacity before they can be accredited.

Any thoughts?

@ lph +1 Knowing a hotel chain had 50 amp chargers for my S to use while I sleep would be a great draw for me.

The Hyatt at Indian Wells, CA. They have a 14-50 in their valet parking area. $25 bucks to valet is alot cheaper than a tank of gas!

Bump, as we can all use a good charging hotel.

We stay at the Holiday Inn in my hometown when we visit my mom a couple of times a year. So last time when we were there I asked about charging. The staff was very helpful.nThey offered to let us into5 banquet room which has the only 240 plugs ( it has a garage door). Later called the general manager and he had just moved from Bloomigton Normal and said he was working on getting a J1772 put in. Moral of the story is it never hurts to ask and you'd be surprised how accommodating the hotel can be.

And if you ever need to stay in Stevens Point WI call the Holiday Inn and Conventiom Center.

Getting the existing charger databases to add a checkbox for the charging station being adjacent to a good place for travelers to spend the night would probably be sufficient; there shouldn't be any need for a complete new app.

I don't expect installing charging stations is going to provide a captive market; whenever the competing hotels conclude they're actually losing a significant amount of business by not having charging stations, there are no major barriers to them joining the party.

Doing an install at all the hotels in a chain at once risks hotels making a massive investment in 240V 30A J-1772 chargers that may end up being useless if 85 kwh Tesla owners end up being the primary users and decide that 30A is too slow. (Isn't that something like 12-13 hours for a full charge, and isn't it common for people to spend less than 12 hours at a hotel?)

Here are a few I've used:

Salt Lake City UT: Hilton Salt Lake City Center has a NEMA 14-50 in their valet parking area.
La Jolla, CA (near San Diego): Hotel La Jolla has a NEMA 14-50 around back for guests, 7955 La Jolla Shores Drive La Jolla, CA 92037 http://www.hotellajolla.com/
North of Baltimore, MD: Residence Inn and Fairfield Inn, White Marsh has a park-and-ride across the street with several Chargepoint Level 3 J-1772 connectors.

Joel;
Full charge isn't really the usual requirement, unless you're cutting it really close.

Recargo.com
Problem solved

KOA at Circus Circus in Las Vegas, NV is next to the hotel. They charge a 24 hour "storage" fee of $20 plus tax to park in a paved RV space and hook up to the NEMA 14-50. No overnight sleeping in the car allowed!

@Liz G,

Are you in Wisconsin? I'm in Madison - mine will arrive late April. Just wondering if there are many others in Cheeseville.

I think any source that is 30 amps or more would be sufficient. That will add 18+ miles per hour of charge, which will add more than 200 miles overnight. Obviously NEMA 14-50 would be better, but hotels will want to appeal to the broadest range of users.

Some of the apps, like Recargo, do have a category for "hotels," but they do not allow the user to filter on that category. I have written to them requesting that they do so, and you might want to do the same.

Hotels that want to appeal to the broadest possible group of vehicles with a single charging station can simply install Aerovironment 70A J-1772 stations.

My understanding is that flight search websites typically make more money on hotel booking than on flight booking. A charging station database operator that isn't accepting ads from hotels is leaving money on the table.

(One other recargo gripe: they have checkboxes for Tesla Roadster and Tesla Supercharger, but it's not obvious where a Tesla HPWC for the Model S / Model X goes. Wouldn't adding a Tesla HPWC checkbox make sense? There are probably more vehicles on the road that can charge from a Tesla HPWC than can charge from Avcon / Small Paddle / Large Paddle at this point...)

In the long term, I wonder what ratio of Tesla to non-Tesla vehicles hotels are going to see if Model S turns out to be a better road trip vehicle than the Leaf and similar vehicles. If it turns out that hotel EV charging is nearly all Tesla, does a Tesla HPWC variant with a 4' cable similar to the Superchargers (short enough so it can't be run over) make sense?

What about getting the online travel sites, Orbitz, Travelocity, etc to add charging availablity to there web sites? Again if one does it it becomes a compative edge the others will want to follow.

@kyleket I'm from Point but live St. Louis now. Though I come up to Wisc couple times a year to visit family. My husbands brother lives in Madison. Very nice place. Are you on Teslamotorsclub.com? If so drop me a PM and maybe we can meet up when I'm in town.

@ghillair Great idea. Wonder if we should mass email their suggestions box.

@Joel

You probably mean Clipper Creek 70 amp charging stations. I believe the maximum output of Aerovironment stations (other than DC fast charge) is 30 amps. I agree, that is the station with the broadest applicability at present. However, I'm looking for hotels that have chargers NOW, and I would generally be happy with anything 30 amps and above, since I will have overnight to charge.

By "that is the station," I of course mean the Clipper Creek 70+ amp stations.

DouglasR: I'd thought I'd seen someone somewhere referring to a 70A Aerovironment charging station, but I just looked at the Aerovironment website which seems to confirm what you're saying about their level 2 stations being limited to 30A. Regardless, the brand isn't really the key point here.

ghillair: I'd always assumed that those sites were only used by airplane travelers, who probably aren't going to end up renting a Tesla at their destination for now, but if people end up using those sites to book hotels during road trips, including charging station availability info certainly would make sense.

But Recargo is probably more likely to try to convince hotels to add charging stations so that they can sell advertising to the hotel vs a generic travel website will have less incentive to convince hotels to install charging stations.

The other thing to think about is: even if 30A stations are barely adequate for overnight charging of 85 kwh batteries, what happens if Tesla builds a 120 kwh pickup truck in a few years?

(And then there's also the question of whether it's _really_ a problem if the first station a hotel installs is slightly marginal. If EVs really take off, hotels are gradually going to need to add charging stations at every single space, and if there are a few well marked slower charging stations that people can avoid except when the hotel is at peak occupancy, is that really such a problem?)

Bump. I edited the first post to reflect additions.

Added every hotel mentioned so far to Plugshare.com, which you can also use to plan routes at Chargeplanner.com (they pull the Plugshare database). Anyone can add a station to Plugshare, they have a mobile app, and you can check-in, add comments and photos. I know people love Recargo, but I find the map-based interface of Plugshare easier to browse. I hope they both collaborate in the future to share charging location data.

@dbfish

The problem with both Plugshare and Recargo is that they do not allow you to filter on "hotel" or "overnight accommodation." I would like to be able to enter a city (or locate it on a map) and pull up just the chargers that are at or near places to stay. Recargo at least does have a category for this, but it is of no use for searching.

I'm planning on a driving spring break: Bay Area to LA to Vegas and Palm Springs.

I found the following EV friendly hotels:
Loews Santa Monica

Vegas: Charging at Mandalay Shops, Crystals City Center, Cosmoplitan, Venetian, Palazzo. Will stay at Four Seasons and charge at Mandalay. I wrote a letter to Wynn explaining why they aren't getting my business this time. I almost always stay there.

I'll try the Hyatt Indian Springs near Palm Springs. Cancelling my reservation at Westin Rancho Mirage since they don't have charging.

I called Marriot Desert springs a few weeks ago and they said they have a charging station. I hink they said they have a 14-50 outlet.

I'm planning on a driving spring break: Bay Area to LA to Vegas and Palm Springs.

I found the following EV friendly hotels:
Loews Santa Monica

Vegas: Charging at Mandalay Shops, Crystals City Center, Cosmoplitan, Venetian, Palazzo. Will stay at Four Seasons and charge at Mandalay. I wrote a letter to Wynn explaining why they aren't getting my business this time. I almost always stay there.

I'll try the Hyatt Indian Springs near Palm Springs. Cancelling my reservation at Westin Rancho Mirage since they don't have charging.

I started a Google spreadsheet with public read/write permission if any of you are ambitious enough to contribute to it. I entered a couple hotels to get it started.

Lodging with EV Chargers


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