This does NOT!...
Jeeeze you're right. I'm really hoping the betas were lacking a completed center console. We shall see in February I suppose!
The Motortrend article looks like the alpha interior while the Bunty photo is definitely from a beta visit.
I'm hoping for a combination of the two. The center console similar to the alpha with the dash highlights of the beta. And I think I see forward/reverse buttons on the alpha, so that would be a nice alternative to the steering wheel thing on the beta.
The interior on the prototype was one of the things that originally attracted me to the Model S as being not just the best electric car, but the best car. The console wrapped around the 17" monitor, sheltering it from glare and softening its outline.
The interior on the beta reminds me of an early 80s Aston Martin Lagonda: Angular and simplistic cream-colored surfaces, too-shiny strips of veneer, and an oversized in-your-face digital display.
BUT... the Lagonda has a center console! :-P
The Motortrend article looks like the alpha interior [...] (Jason S)
the Alpha interior that was up on Tesla Motor's website from the reveal of the Alpha in March 2009 until the updated "Model S Facts" page went online shortly before the reveal of the Beta in October 2011.
(sorry for the HTML formatting snafu)
Definitely the alpha. The date on the monitor is April 17,2009
Wow, yet ANOTHER center consul thread
First time i see this...how do you get from alpha interior (very classy) to the beta one?? Did they put an Austin Powers lookalike in charge of interior design?
Gee ... do you think that might tell TM something?
I sure do hope that they've come up with an interior design that is worthy of a spectacular exterior design. The beta interior (even a slightly modified beta) is NOT!
@Nick Kordich reflects my position well when he writes: The interior on the prototype was one of the things that originally attracted me to the Model S as being not just the best electric car, but the best car. [emphasis added] The console wrapped around the 17" monitor, sheltering it from glare and softening its outline.
I think it says the people that don't like it, for whatever reason, are determined.
@ThomasN: As one of the vast majority of reservation holders who "don't like it" [the interior], I am determined to get Tesla to correct a design error that will hurt sales of the car over a longer term than 2012. I'm also a shareholder, so long terms sales matter.
What's maddening is that (to quote) @erik ... "how do you get from alpha interior (very classy) to the beta one?? Did they put an Austin Powers lookalike in charge of interior design?"
That's snarky, I know, but it's also fairly accurate.
What worries me is that TM will deliver the Beta-like interior to Sig holders and early P holders, then finally relent when negative feedback continues, and make a change in 2013/14. Better to do it now so that early adopters are not punished.
I sure do hope they release the final interior design soon, and I also hope it's a significant improvement.
@Soflauthor: "As one of the vast majority of reservation holders who "don't like it" [the interior] ..."
where did you get the statistic that states that "the vast majority of reservation holders [who] don't like it"? Or is this just an opinion. If so, then please don't present it as fact ...
This has been discussed ad nauseam. Based on observations in other areas I presume that they don't employ Austin Powers lookalikes at Tesla. More likely, they did not get around to finish the interior to their own standards before the October 1 event, so they went with something they could quickly implement to show off in the Beta vehicles.
It is disturbing that they did not care to mention that the interior shown in the Betas was actually a stand-in (assuming that it was). Looking at the discussions around the Options & Pricing page, I have a cold comfort in finding that much of the heated debate was entirely pointless and would not have taken place if, e.g., Tesla had accurately communicated the standard features included in the base price at the same time. Similarly, at this point I see no way other than lean back, let the dust settle and breath calmly until Tesla steps up and reveals the official and final interior.
There is nothing wrong with letting Tesla know what we think, one way or the other, just as we did with that dreaded Alpha nose cone, too. Regarding interior in general and center console/cup holders in particular, this should have been accomplished by loads of other threads around these topics:
(in order of appearance)
Caveat: Everything I said in this post is my subjective opinion, based mostly on speculation.
@Softauthor: if the text you emphasized sounds familiar, it's because I was quoting/paraphrasing Elon.
@clea: I have followed the interior debate closely since the beta was introduced. It's readily apparent, if you choose to read the many threads (see @V.B's list above), that the "vast majority" of comments about the beta interior on this forum, at teslamotorsclub.com, and on Tesla's facebook page (when people comment on the interior) are negative or ask for major modifications to design, color choice, etc. Sorry, if you need something more quantitative or a scientific polling approach, but I honestly don't see the point, since this is not a vote, and the final interior is now complete.
@V.B is absolutely correct when he states "at this point I see no way other than lean back, let the dust settle and breath calmly until Tesla steps up and reveals the official and final interior."
I will follow that sage advice, but let's have a reveal sooner, rather than later, so that we'll know what we're buying.
On the recent conference session, Elon responds to a question about the interior by saying that it is essentially finished but TM will improve the fit and finish of the interior.
Yeah, we all know the Beta dashboard was a disappointment. Tesla knows too.
Question is: After finding this out from their customers on Oct. 1, have they been doing anything about it in the last 4 months, or has all the design effort gone into the new Model X prototype?
We'll see soon enough.
Just my 2-cents, sorry, but I think the alpha looks like it has an old fashioned horse collar on it.
Sorry, didn't realize it was so big.
At the risk of being crucified, I prefer the look of the beta to that of the alpha. The alpha looks cramped and needlessly bulky whereas the beta looks minimalistic and open. I would be disappointed if they returned to the alpha look. Tesla is trying to go away from a center stack and consol that is dripping with buttons, toggles and switches and I, for one, am all for it.
@Soflauthor I sure do hope they release the final interior design soon, and I also hope it's a significant improvement.
I don't want to rain on most folk's parade, but it is unlikely we will see a significant improvement over the Betas that were at Fremont.
Here's an interview with Elon and CNN Money published in November 2011. At 24 seconds into the video he explains that the Beta "is 99% of the production design".
And I just got a call from my Tesla rep (triggered by my email to him about saddle leather). His bottom line on the interior: what's in the non-engineering betas (i.e., not the old Sig red, not the "engineering" white beta) is close enough to final that, if you took off your glasses, that's what you'll see. I don't know how bad his uncorrected eyesight is, though! Still, I think that definitely rules out a bulky center console from the Model S design.
What did he say about the saddle leather?!
I just hope and pray, for the sake of Tesla, that I am in the tiny minority when it comes to not being in love with the new interior, and they still sell tens of thousands of S's to semi-wealthy people, who don't expect it to be everything they ever wanted in a dream car.
I understand that we'r enot going to be getting anything that looks like the alpha (for instance it doesn't have place for the banana leaf/lacewood/piano black accents). However, I just really really want easy to access cup holders and larger armrests, with a sliding adjustment if necessary.
I also forgot to mention I would absolutely live the push button "shift" controls as seen in the alpha instead of the crappy lever on the stalk. I would also love touchscreen shifting instead.
I know Tesla isn't sort of challenging all the convention of design, but I actually think it would be really cool to have paddles (like psuedo-manual shift paddles for some automatics) for the turn signals instead of the standard lever control.
Just my 2-cents, sorry, but I think the alpha looks like it has an old fashioned horse collar on it. (Mycroft)
Ha! I agree 100%. I was thinking that the rim around the Alpha's screen reminded me of something, but could not figure out what it was. Thank you for opening my eyes, I will sleep better tonight! :-D
[...] semi-wealthy people, who don't expect it to be everything they ever wanted in a dream car. (TikiMan)
I am afraid, your assessment of semi-wealthy people's attitude may be wrong. Those people who can barely afford the Model S will be the most critical. Among all customers those will be the ones who will be most careful and hesitant in allotting their money, so if the Model S does not work for them, they will buy a new Prius or a used BMW instead, depending on their priorities, but will spend less money either way.
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