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PG&E Experimental Electric Rate Schedule E-9 Anyone On It

Has anyone started to use the PG&E Schedule E- 9 rates for EV's.

I'm currently on E-6 time of use (TOU) because I have a 7.7 kWh PV (solar panels) system and over produce annually about 1100 kWh. Based on 1 kWh/20 miles (heard that from the Solar-City representative) for charging rate I should be able to drive 15,000 miles/year for 750 kWh so it shouldn't matter. But, since I don't know how much or how fast I'm going to drive I might use more power. When I compared the rates and TOU I'm concerned about the difference's in time period for the utilities peak hour charges rates in the E-9 schedule. The Off-Peak rates in E-9 are significantly lower than the E-6 rates. I'll show both below.

The E-9 schedule is also a time of use program as noted in these tables:

Total Energy Rates ($ per kWh) PEAK PART-PEAK OFF-PEAK
Summer
Baseline Usage $0.30178 ( ) $0.09876 ( ) $0.03743 ( )
101% - 130% of Baseline $0.31994 ( ) $0.11692 ( ) $0.05559 ( )
131% - 200% of Baseline $0.50036 (R) $0.29734 (R) $0.15808 (R)
201% - 300% of Baseline $0.54036 (R) $0.33734 (R) $0.19808 (R)
Over 300% of Baseline $0.54036 (R) $0.33734 (R) $0.19808 (R)
Winter
Baseline Usage – $0.09864 ( ) $0.04680 ( )
101% - 130% of Baseline - $0.11679 ( ) $0.06495 ( )
131% - 200% of Baseline - $0.29721 (R) $0.15808 (R)
201% - 300% of Baseline - $0.33721 (R) $0.19808 (R)
Over 300% of Baseline - $0.33721 (R) $0.19808 (R)

Time of use for E-9 are:
Summer (service from May 1 through October 31):
Peak: 2:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m. Monday through Friday.
Partial-Peak: 7:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. AND 9:00 p.m. to 12:00 midnight Monday
through Friday, plus 5:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m. Saturday and Sunday.
Off-Peak: All other hours.
Winter (service from November 1 through April 30):
Partial-Peak: 7:00 a.m. to 12:00 midnight Monday through Friday, and 5:00 p.m.
to 9:00 p.m. Saturday and Sunday.
Off-Peak: All other hours.

The E-6 schedule and time of use are below:

Total Energy Rates $ per kWh) PEAK PART-PEAK OFF-PEAK
Summer
Baseline Usage $0.27883 ( ) $0.17017 ( ) $0.09781 ( )
101% - 130% of Baseline $0.29640 ( ) $0.18775 ( ) $0.11538 ( )
131% - 200% of Baseline $0.44653 (R) $0.33788 (R) $0.26551 (R)
201% - 300% of Baseline $0.48653 (R) $0.37788 (R) $0.30551 (R)
Over 300% of Baseline $0.48653 (R) $0.37788 (R) $0.30551 (R)
Winter
Baseline Usage – - $0.11776 ( ) $0.10189 ( )
101% - 130% of Baseline - $0.13533 ( ) $0.11947 ( )
131% - 200% of Baseline - $0.28546 (R) $0.26959 (R)
201% - 300% of Baseline - $0.32546 (R) $0.30959 (R)
Over 300% of Baseline – $0.32546 (R) $0.30959 (R)

E-6 time of use:
Summer (service from May 1 through October 31):
Peak: 1:00 p.m. to 7:00 p.m. Monday through Friday
Partial-Peak: 10:00 a.m. to 1:00 p.m.and 7:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m. Monday through Friday
Plus 5:00 p.m. to 8:00 p.m. Saturday and Sunday
Off-Peak: All other times including Holidays.
Winter (service from November 1 through April 30):
Partial-Peak: 5:00 p.m. to 8:00 p.m. Monday through Friday
Off-Peak: All other times including Holidays.
Holidays: “Holidays” for the purposes of this rate schedule are New Year’s
Day, President’s Day, Memorial Day, Independence Day, Labor
Day, Veterans Day, Thanksgiving Day, and Christmas Day. The
dates will be those on which the holidays are legally observed.

So has anyone done this? If so can your report on your experience?

Thanks,
Model S #12378
Notice of Delivery on 1/17/13, expecting to hear from them any day.

If you have a Tesla (or expecting one), you may want to wait for the new EV schedule which is due to replace E-9. I've no idea how solar panels will combine with the new schedule. The new one EV schedule has no baseline, it has no tiers.

I've had E-9 for about two years now. Winter is great, Summer is so-so.
The new EV might be better for me.

@love2krz
I have no answer to your questions really. But I understand that it's about solar panels on the roof of your house for the electricity that you need to charge the battery of your Model S.

I am posting this, because I have decided for myself that I am going to buy a EV and that I want to have Solar Panels on the roof of my house as well. I do not know much about Solar Panels and electricity at all. But I do know that it is more economical than staying addicted to oil. And it is better for the environment as well. I have understood that 1 Solar Panel can produce a maximum of 240 Watt per hour, but that is not likely to happen. I am going to take as much time as is needed to make the right decission on this matter. So, I will be following this thread. Asking questions, and if possible, I will be giving feedback.

Jaanton,PG&E told me that the E-9 schedule referenced above is the EV tariff that is time of user (TOU). If you've seen something that states otherwise I'd really like to know. As I understand this PG&E wants to push EV recharging to off peak times and are offering a very cheap rate for that purpose. I have decided that since I most likely with over produce after I get my Model S it doesn't matter what schedule I'm on since I have a large surplus.

Benz, there is another thread somewhere on the site that many people have discussed solar. From what I've read folks who own their systems love them. People who have leased are happy but there are many considerations for leasing (what is buy out at end of lease, what happens when you sell you home, who gets the tax credit/rebates,etc.). The house we live in is the second house we've put solar in. I haven't had a PG&E electric bill since we moved in almost 3 years ago. We had solar in our old house and annual bill for PG&E electrical usage was less than $500 for the year. I think solar is better than sliced bread. Get at least 3 bids from different companies, do the research on single inverters verses micro inverters, panel efficiencies, warranties, etc.

@lov2krz
Thanks, and I wish you good luck with your situation. I shall look for the other thread.


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