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Where would you like to see Tesla set up Super Chargers?

I have a couple long drives I undertake and came up with a list that would be convenient for me. Somehow I think Tesla will take a wider array of people into account :)

Here is where I would like to see them (for my personal convenience of course :) )
North Bay, ON
Barrie, ON
Stratford, ON
Niagara, Falls, ON
Erie, PA
Morgantown, WV
Beckley, WV
Charlotte or Statesville, NC

I actually anticipate Tesla will concentrate their super chargers in/near their hottest U.S. markets (at least initially), but I can dream about them being in more out of the way places.

Where would they suit you best?

In Canada they would need to put some chargers on the main transportation links between Ontario and Quebec

Windsor, ON
Hamilton, ON
Toronto, ON
Kingston, ON
Ottawa, ON
Montreal, QC
Mont-Tremblant, QC
Trois-Riviere, QC
Quebec City, QC

Alex
P258 (Canada)

@DMAC -- 200 CHADEMO stations would be incompatible but the 10000 "normal speed" are compatible.

However the Tesla fast charges are MUCH faster than the CHADEMO ones anyhow. So it seems like we'll be covered.

By the time the standards committee makes a decision this summer, nearly all of the DC fast chargers in existence will be using the CHADEMO standard and nearly all of the EVs on the road at that time will be CHADEMO compatible. California, with all its political clout, will be committed to CHADEMO. I would be surprised to see the committee go in a different direction, but stranger things have happened.

Enter TM. They march to the beat of their own drum, and none of their vehicles will be compatible with whatever the standards committee decides. TM makes a J1772 adapter for both the Roadster and the S Level 2 charging. I hope they will soon offer an adapter for Level 3 CHADEMO DC fast charging in the interim and a modified J1772 in the future if that's the way the committee goes. TM has promised us a nationwide Supercharger network. Hope I'm wrong, but I think that is months if not years away. Meanwhile, they will start delivering the S to us in July and we then wait for a practical fast charging solution to take it cross country.

While I don't expect to see my model s in Australia until next year, I'd love to see chargers every 350 km or so along the main routes between Brisbane, Sydney and Melbourne.

Chargers along the scenic routes would be great too - and could in the longer term help so many of the smaller towns that have lost out as the freeways bypass them.

We like to visit the eastern Sierras so:
Lancaster, Lone Pine, Bishop, Mammoth, CA

Without chargers, I will have to take an ICE car on our backpacking and camping adventures.

@jmatson, RV plugs will work to charge and may be near where you go camping.

@jmatson: Park near a stream and bring a hydroelectric generator. When you get back to the car, you'll be fully charged. (Depending on a solar panel to charge your car for the few days is too risky: it might be raining.)

Seriously: I've wondered the same thing about my backpacking trips. Not sure I want to park my Model S in an unpaved woods parking lot, and leave it for 4 days.

I'd like to see Supercharging stations at all Interstate Highway reststops. According to the next rest area signs before the exits to the rest area you are nearing they tend to be right at 100 miles apart. I travel from Dallas, TX to Columbus, OH a couple of times a year. I'd definitely like to see them along I-30, I-40, I-65, I-71 & I-70. All along these Interstates are very nicely landscaped, well lit with clean restrooms and picnic facilies.

The Pvilion a New York PhotoVoltaics company has designed a solar sail EV charging station that has been installed in Pflugerville, TX that is as beautiful to see as it is to use. Story and photo at the link below.

http://www.ecofriend.com/solar-sail-its-kind-solar-ev-charging-station-i...

Previous post is an artist rendering the actual photo of the solar sail EV charging station in Pflugerville, TX is at the link below.

http://www.globenewswire.com/newsroom/news.html?d=250670

Problem with using rest stops on interstates is that there is not a commercial outfit for TM to partner with. I chatted with one of the TM guys at the Santana Road event and he said they are looking for partnerships, whereby presumably big spenders would be lured into their establishments. The Harris Ranch site is a perfect example.

My concern about rest stops is that as the EV becomes more popular, how long may one have to wait to juice up their ride if there is a line? I guess it's a good problem to have in the short term knowing that the EV has gained traction in the market but bad long term when you just want to get to their final destination.

Texas!

Abileen or sweetwater

I realize that my request for Lone Pine, Bishop, and Mammoth (Highway 395) will not be the priority route, but it sure would be a fun route. With the concentration of Tesla owners in California, why not?

It would also be nice to have chargers on 101-- Santa Barbara, Monterrey and Highway 1--Morro Bay, San Simeon, and Big Sur. A few key locations near national parks will be helpful, or perhaps at national park visitor centers.

I am sure that Interstate 5 will be one of the first routes.

Strategically speaking, may be best to move out from existing tesla dealerships in 100 mi increments, giving people the ability to get back "home" to dealerships.

jmatson,

I'm with you. We much prefer to drive 395 from So. CA to Reno, rather than go over to I-5. Right now, from Palm Springs to Reno is a relatively easy 1 day trip. With supercharger at Bishop and a second at Barstow, it could still be done in 1 long day (an hour or two longer plus more for economical driving). That's a little over 200 miles between stops.

@alexandre.cesar

In the province of Quebec, Canada, Hydro-Québec just launched the "Circuit Électrique" with 22 chargers in Montreal and Quebec City. It will have hundreds of 240V chargers by year end.

Gas just reached $1.499 per litre yesterday (or $5.68 a US Gallon). They foresee it reaching $1.60 in the summer...

My business case is looking better an better :-)

I just finished a roadtrip from SF Bay Area to LA (traveled down via the i5). We spent the weekend in Ojai golfing then returned to SF via the 101.

I have to say the i5 is a scary road! I think it just gets worse every year... more semi's and the narrow/non existant shoulder make it pretty tretcherous. I have traveled it many times in the past 30 years but it has definitely gotten worse, I simply hate this interstate. It's fine once you get to the grapevine but it sucks within the central valley..On the way down we encountered a 1 hour delay with a fatal pickup rollover crash just ahead of us. Dodging in and out of slow moving semi's and crazy car drivers is not the way to go! I think I didn't mind it so much driving solo in my Porsche in my early 30's but its not good with the family in tow!

It's pathetic this road has not been widened in the past 40+ years. ( I'm sure there is a dedicated forum on this topic somewhere)

I had previously voted for the Harris Ranch location along the i5 but after this weekend I think the 101 corridor makes more sense ( maybe Telsa can eventually do both?). All I know is that I won't be keen driving from the SF Bay Area to LA along the i5. If that's the option I may opt for the smaller 230 battery and continue to fly to LA. On the other hand the 101 is a much less stressful drive ( yes there are still idiot drivers on the road) because you don't have to deal with the semi's.

That said; for travel between SF Bay Area and LA I vote for chargers in SLO ( San Luis Obispo) and Santa Barbara to start. Eventually something along hwy 1 would make sense for the trip to Monterey and Hearst Castle ...

I'll also renew my vote for the i80 corridor for SF Bay Area to Tahoe travel. Perhaps Davis and Auburn for charging?

I don't like the rest stop idea either. These are not locations to enjoy for 5 minutes let alone for 30-45 minutes. The charge locations should be mini destinations, an oasis. Otherwise what's the point? I'm sure Tesla will figure this part out.

EVFNBOY;
Maybe it will work in reverse; if the stations are multi-outlet, perhaps little oases will spring up around them! Particularly if the TM and non-TM chargers are clustered together.

definitely, i see a market (may take a decade) for this. "If you build it they will come"

Thanks for your thoughts, EVFNBOY. I agree with everything you said, but would add chargers on the I50 corridor as well (Sacramento to Tahoe). At least South Lake Tahoe. If you look on the charger maps there are virtually no chargers of any type on that route, and also on the Monterrey Pennisula. I also agree that chargers should be close to shopping malls or restaurants so you have something to do for an hour or two. I expect my Model S to be my prinicpal car for all purposes.

I’m a big Socal to Vegas goer – and although there is a charging station at the Barstow Station (good McD stop) I wouldn’t mind a Super Charger close by if the Barstow Station is unstable for whatever reason. For instance, maybe at the Barstow Outlet (close to a location for a quick bite – e.g. In-N-Out, Panda Express, etc).

If I’m not staying near any of the charging stations on the Strip (e.g. Cosmopolitan, Mandalay Bay Shoppes) I wouldn’t mind seeing one at Primm/Stateline Outlets for the ride back home (again, good stop for a quick bite while charging).

I’d also love to be able to drive to Mammoth or Tahoe – but noticed there isn’t anything along the 395 (at all I think!) There really isn’t very much between Hesperia and Bishop – so I am not sure where along the way a SuperCharger could go – Definitely would like to see one in Bishop for the remaining part of a trip to Tahoe or as a station for the way back.

Maybe not as important – but another one off the 5 at Lost Hills or Button Willow (for anyone that wants to track! :) ) - in all seriousness though, I too don't want to drive till near empty/discharged to get to the one at Coalinga. I'd like to drive and not worry about the A/C sucking up the few miles I need; or driving the 70mph speed limit (or more likely above it with my heavy foot) will force me to use my Chevy-legs!

For EVFNBOY: http://www.wired.com/autopia/2009/09/charging-corridor/ The TESLA charging stations from SF to LA on the 101 have been in place for several years. Originally built to charge the Roadster, they should have been retrofitted for J1772 by now. If TM will waive the delivery charges, I plan on picking my S up at the factory, and having a leisurely drive back to San Diego on the 101. There is a link in the article to a Google Map of the charger locations.

thanks Steve That's great. Looking forward to making use of them!

Yeah, the retrofit was expected in 9 months as of Sept. '09. Which was 55 months ago!

Oops, dubbled my count of years; just 31 months ago. ;)

I'm just now trying to sort out how to make road trips in the Model S and am alarmed to find that Tesla doesn't leverage Level 3 CHADEMO DC fast charging. It seems that there are a number of these stations being deployed.

I'm hoping to make a cross counry trip and don't relish the thought of begging Nissan Dealers to let me sit in their parking lots for 6 hours or even hanging out at KOA campgrounds during 6 hours of daylight.

I need stations up and down the I-95 corridor and out I-76 across PA.

I'd love them on the southern route across the US from Las Vegas to Dallas and then east to Atlanta and up NC.

Best of all I'd like to see a grand partnership with B&B's across the country to include charging stations.

But I just don't see how it will work unless a single charging station can fast charge Teslas, Leafs and Infinitys.

A 6 hour charge while on the road is just a non-starter.

I am still voting for something on I-10 between the east side of LA and Phoenix. Not much there except Blythe, CA and Quartzite, AZ.

double oops, the chargers along the 101 are only level II according to that 2009 article...

I assume these have not been upgraded? We need level III charging to make EV travel somewhat practical.

Wow, $7000 to $12000 to install level II chargers? Yikes

Ok, we need level III along i5 and 101 and 80 and 50...

@daxz has posted a map on teslamotorsclub for us to add our suggested supercharger locations

http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/8070-Suggested-Supercharge...

thanks daxz!

For EVFNBOY: That's why I said leisurely drive back to San Diego :) I don't expect to make it in a day, but those TM chargers are 70amp units, so if your S is equipped with the twin charger option, your charge time is still respectable. Also, according to the Google Map, the farthest distance between chargers is only 109 miles so if you leave SF/LA with a full charge, you're only topping off if you stop at each one along the way.

When you read through this thread, you find there is a need for Level 3 DC fast charging just about everywhere to make cross country travel in an EV practical. It's not reasonable to expect TM to install their DC Supercharger everywhere, but with the deployment of DC fast charging by a number of companies, we may find DC fast charging opportunity along many/most of the routes mentioned here. Every non-TM DC fast charger I can find in the US uses the CHAdeMO standard, even though it's not standard in the US. TM - Do us a favor and offer a CHAdeMO adapter so we can use those DC fast chargers with our S.


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