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Tesla Model E Questions

Folks, I'm working on a school project researching Tesla and the future Model E. I'm supposed to get feedback to five questions from possible buyers. It would be greatly appreciated if ten or more of the forum members could answer these simple questions for my research. Any help is appreciated.

I know that many of the forum members here are Model S buyers, but these questions are really directed at the idea of the rumored Model E that would be a $40k car for the masses.

1) Is the availability of charging stations a factor in buying an electric car? (Or do you just plan on charging up at home?) YES or NO

2) Teslas by design require less maintenance than a traditional built car. Is the low maintenance these care require a factor in buying this car? YES or NO

3) Is the Tesla brand prestigious to you? In other words, it is cool to have a "Tesla" like many aspire to owning a BMW or Mercedes? YES or NO

4) Is the idea of a completely electric car that is NOT a hybrid important to you? YES or NO

5) The Tesla is a beautiful car. Was the Tesla's visual design and style a factor in selecting a Tesla over other cars? YES or NO

I think these are pretty simple questions and anything you can provide in regards to feedback is greatly appreciated. Once I get all the responses, I'll tally them up and post them back on the forum. Thanks! Kevin in San Diego

1) Yes. This means it can be used as a single car instead of having it as the "commuter" car only.
2) Yes. This improves cost over the long term with less parts to break.
3) Yes, it's prestigious to me, but No, it's not like I aspire to own it like a BMW or Mercedes. It's a well made car, which is most attractive.
4) No. My previous thought was "my next car will be a hybrid" because I wanted to spend less in gas. Now, with Tesla in the picture, my thought now is "My next car will be a Tesla". If someone else came up with a comparable car, my thought would be "My next car will be electric only" because a simpler design makes for lower long-term repair costs (see #2)
5) Yes. Most EV's to date maximized every single design feature to make it go further, which made them small ugly econo-raindrops. (EV-1 for example). Having a Tesla look like a "real" car bridges the design gap from "sleek beauty with gas guzzling engine" to "highly efficient car with minimal features".

Also, we do not know what the Model E will look like, except that it will have the same pedigree as the Model S and Model X. The Model S is too expensive for me at this time, so I've set myself a 5 year plan to afford the Model E, or if that doesn't rate as well, then a used Model S. I'm aiming for the 50K-60K range due to likely need to get extra premium features in the smaller car. (especially if it'll have longer range!)

Hope this helps!

1) Yes - Need to be able to top off when too far from home.
2) No
3) No - Still unproven as far a reliability goes...to soon to judge
4) Yes
5) Yes

1 - no
2 - yes
3 - no
4 - yes
5 - no

Model S signature owner here...

1. Yes (But a secondary factor... I live in Virginia, where there isn't an abundance of charging stations)
2. No (Great benefit, but honestly, it wasn't a factor in my decision to buy a Model S)
3. Yes
4. Yes
5. Yes

Good luck, Kevin.

Cheers,
R

Yes to all. And the price is reasonable, too. (Price always matters in market research.) Good luck on your project.

1-5 yes, 6 "Is the factor that electric car is better than ICE car a factor to you" : BIG YES!

Haven't actually bought one because of that first "yes". Will probably buy Model E (or C or whatever it will be called).

1 through 5: Yes

I don't own a Tesla yet.

1. No (but they would be very nice to have...to extend range of use)
2. Yes - I want to get rid of the complexity of the ICE and everything that goes with it.
3. No - it's a brand I respect. They did the electric car right. I've never aspired to buy a so-called 'luxury' car.
4. Yes - I want my next car to be all electric. I have a hybrid now (Prius)...time for the next step. I like living in the future...not the past.
5. No - but the Model S is a beauty! It just seems too big for me (and my garage), but I could live with that if I had to.

1) Is the availability of charging stations a factor in buying an electric car? Yes, of course.

2) Teslas by design require less maintenance than a traditional built car. Is the low maintenance these care require a factor in buying this car? Yes. We all want to spend less money on auto maintenance.

3) Is the Tesla brand prestigious to you? In other words, it is cool to have a "Tesla" like many aspire to owning a BMW or Mercedes? No, I never aspired to a BMW or a Mercedes, just an economical car that provided reliable transporation. Was looking at a Prius, but unwilling to actually buy one. I cannot afford a model S, but I will be first in line to put money down on to reserve a model E, likely sight unseen.

4) Is the idea of a completely electric car that is NOT a hybrid important to you? Yes. We're running out of oil. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sI1C9DyIi_8

5) The Tesla is a beautiful car. Was the Tesla's visual design and style a factor in selecting a Tesla over other cars? Only in that the pleasant visual design is a reflection of the care that went into the design of every other component as well.

Good luck with your project!

Thanks, guys. You're awesome. I only needed five people to respond, but obviously the more people who respond, the more accurate the data. Most of this is pretty basic, but it will help confirm or deny what our presumptions about the market are. Thanks again for your help. I'll look forward to some more input over the next week. Kevin

1) Is the availability of charging stations a factor in buying an electric car? (Or do you just plan on charging up at home?) yes, as I do tend to drive a few 500km+ drives per year, and would love to drive more now that I've started a family

2) Teslas by design require less maintenance than a traditional built car. Is the low maintenance these care require a factor in buying this car? Yes, as it is reassuring to know that sp few things can go wrong with my car

3) Is the Tesla brand prestigious to you? In other words, it is cool to have a "Tesla" like many aspire to owning a BMW or Mercedes? Yes, I do think it is a prestigious brand, but I aspire moreso than to a BMW or Mercedes, as I never aspired to either

4) Is the idea of a completely electric car that is NOT a hybrid important to you? Yes, but it was not until I discovered Tesla that it was important to me

5) The Tesla is a beautiful car. Was the Tesla's visual design and style a factor in selecting a Tesla over other cars? Yes, as it differs from other electric cars with their abhorrent styles

Also I am from Australia, with the desire for a model x but realistically may have to start with the model e's version of it.

If you are serious about your survey, my suggestion is post a link to an online survey, such as surveymonkey.com. If you make the results publicly available to everyone, I'm sure you will get alot more feedback, and in a format that is easier to analyze.

My answer is Yes to all questions. #4 is actually similar to #2. If people are interested in the car because of the low maintenance, they will not be interested in a hybrid, plug-in hybrid, or Range-extended EV. By putting a gasoline motor in the car, you completely negate the benefits of a low-maintenance electric car.

Also, keep in mind, the "Model E" monkier is not necessarily going to be used for the Gen III car. Many are postulating that "Model E" is going to be for the Chinese "Executive" Model S, which will have the larger back seat for owners who prefer to be chauffeured. Those same people still believe the Gen III Coupe will be the "Model C".

My main attraction to electric vehicles is convenience of owning it. No more visits to gas-stations, no more worries about empty tank, no oil changes, no noise, no smell, cleaner, more reliable, more space, easier to drive (no gears or clutch, just press accelerator and off you go).

BEV that has somewhere close to 300 mile range is just plain better than ICE car in every way, except price. Once that gets at same level with similar ICE cars it's death to traditional ICE cars.

Just to point out that the most important factor is missing from questionnaire.

1) Is the availability of charging stations a factor in buying an electric car? (Or do you just plan on charging up at home?) Yes, but far from the most important factor for me. I would buy an electric car with or without an extensive charging network since 99%+ of my driving is local. That said, widespread charging station availability would be a bonus, giving me the option of driving electric as opposed to renting a vehicle or taking mass transit for longer trips.

2) Teslas by design require less maintenance than a traditional built car. Is the low maintenance these care require a factor in buying this car? Yes, this is one of the key advantage I see in electric cars. The electric drivetrain is so elegantly simple without a transmission and hundreds of moving parts.

3) Is the Tesla brand prestigious to you? In other words, it is cool to have a "Tesla" like many aspire to owning a BMW or Mercedes? Yes, Tesla is far and away the most innovative automaker on the planet right now. I'm rooting for Tesla right now and really hope to see them emerge as a powerful player in the international auto industry. But more importantly, they are forcing other manufacturers to come up with more appealing electric vehicles and that's a good thing for the environment in the long term as the electric grid continues to become cleaner.

4) Is the idea of a completely electric car that is NOT a hybrid important to you? Yes, for 2 reasons. First, I want to be completely free of gasoline and the ability to power 100% of my driving from renewable energy. Second, hybrids are a poor compromise in my opinion. They still have all the engine/transmission components that require maintenance and on top of that, they have an added expense of the electric drivetrain.

5) The Tesla is a beautiful car. Was the Tesla's visual design and style a factor in selecting a Tesla over other cars? Yes, it's great to see an automaker produce a beautiful, environmentally friendly, and great handling/performing vehicle. Like the first question, this is not among the most important factors for me, but the fact that Tesla gets so many things right with the Model S (safety, performance, styling, and environmental responsibility) is what makes it so desirable.

All questions are yes for me

I made an account just to reply to this, but also to make an account finally. :)I'm using a 1999 Hyundai Accent and my next car will be a Tesla!

1)Yes, I couldn't have it as my only car other wise. Being able to go on a 600 mile road trip is crucial even if I have to pay a little bit for the recharge I'd be down because it would still be a lot less than gas.

2)I don't drive my car much and recently had to replace some parts on it and it's annoying. I'd love to not have to deal with the constant maintenance a gas car requires.

3)Yes, I'm a techie and I love having the latest and greatest, but of course at a reasonable price. Being still in college I don't have the money yet for a Model S, but maybe one day! Model E is what my current plan will be.

4)Yes, I really don't like the oil companies nor the pollution factor of gasoline cars. I especially don't like seeing that extra cost every time I have to fill up which thankfully for me isn't that often.

5)Design isn't as big as a player for me, but since I'd expect the Model E to compete with the BMW 3 series I believe Tesla won't skimp in this area and the car will look good. Coming from a 99 Accent almost any new car will look good! :)

Greetings, fellow San Diegan. I don't own any Tesla products at the moment, but like others, am eying either the upcoming Model E (or Model C if the E designation refers to a limousine-like extended model for markets like China as one poster in another thread opined) as a replacement for my '07 Honda Fit in the next 3 or so years, or possibly a well maintained, pre-owned Model S P85. Really depends on how much the Model E actually retails for, actual resale prices of the Model S, and my financial situation and a number of other factors.

1) Is the availability of charging stations a factor in buying an electric car? (Or do you just plan on charging up at home?)

Yes: Tesla anticipates having a network of Supercharger stations in place (which may possibly be fast battery swap capable as well) that will allow coast to coast travel by 2Q 2014, and one presumes that they'll also license the technology to 3rd parties who wish to offer Superchargers to attract the Tesla demographic. I liken the current situation to the early 1910s and 1920s, when gas stations were only found in urban areas, and steadily spread out as car ownership increased.

However, as infrequent as trips of >300 miles are, there are still times when you do need to drive long distances, and having to rent a gasoline car or being forced to work around an 8 hour or longer charge time every 300 miles would be a significant hurdle to having an EV as a primary/sole source of transportation. I would hypothesize (and hope) that once the initial build out is completed, Tesla will license the Supercharger tech to 3rd parties who will want to attract Tesla owners, and the market demand will flesh out the skeleton framework that Tesla has built to date.

The one question that's unanswered (to the best of my knowledge) is what is kind of range can we expect from the Model E? That answer depends on how big a battery pack they can stuff under it, and whether any of the next gen battery technologies are ready for mass production. I'd hope for at least 300 miles, which is comparable to what I get on a tank of gas in my Fit right now.

2) Teslas by design require less maintenance than a traditional built car. Is the low maintenance these care require a factor in buying this car?

Yes: having gone to school for auto mechanics (and then realizing I liked cars as a hobby, but didn't want to turn wrenches on them 40+ hours a week), I can appreciate the utter lack of wear items in EVs. No main bearings, cam bearings, ad nauseum. There are still a few assemblies that will ultimately require rebuilding/replacement like the single gear transmission in the drive train unit, though being a sealed unit, I'd imagine that would be an issue for a 2nd or 3rd owner to worry about, perhaps at the 1 million mile mark or possibly much later.

3) Is the Tesla brand prestigious to you? In other words, it is cool to have a "Tesla" like many aspire to owning a BMW or Mercedes?

No: BMW, Mercedes, Porsche and the like have a long history of prestige and cachet in the eyes of the buying public. Tesla has novelty and the enthusiasm and zealotry of early adopters right now, but given the quality and innovations in the Model S (and presumably the same level of engineering in the forthcoming Model E) it can be. I think Tesla can easily achieve the same prestige and cachet as BMW, M-B, Porsche and the like, but they need to prove that they're in it for the long haul, and build cars that last. After all, the oldest Model S' in regular customers hands are what, just over a year old, if that? Too soon to call them a prestige brand.

4) Is the idea of a completely electric car that is NOT a hybrid important to you?

Yes: had you asked me a year ago, I'd have said no. But given Tesla's performance so far, and their actions in building out the Supercharger infrastructure, and some battery technologies in development that will allow denser, lighter and faster charging batteries, I'm all for getting rid of internal combustion. At least for my own personal use.

5) The Tesla is a beautiful car. Was the Tesla's visual design and style a factor in selecting a Tesla over other cars?

Yes: Though your statement is a bit biased, and I happen to agree that the Model S is a very good looking car, that opinion is by no means universal. As Tesla hasn't released even cocktail napkin sketches of the Model E, we'll all just have to wait and see what direction they take with the styling on it, since you're researching the Model E and not the S.

1) Charging stations are important.
2) Less maintenance is important
3) Prestige is interesting - yes I think it's prestige. No it's not why I'd buy it.
4) Yes completely electric is important, but I'll watch fuel cells with interest, perhaps.
5) yes Tesla looks good, but I'd have something that didn't look as good.

It'll be interesting to see how Tesla develops a cheaper car. Is it a smaller car made to the highest quality? Or could they be approaching a car from a new combination of efficient design? Or even cheap design?

We know that some car types are very popular and are easily repaired with 3rd party replacement parts etc. Conversely a Lexus is very expensive to repair - not just the ICE, but all the supporting technology, and I think the Model S fits that higher price.

I wonder how a car would turn out if it was developed using quality but common parts, deliberately chosen to work well in the design but be easy to maintain and repair. Would I like the car still? Simple engine with simple parts - or do I want the vision of the future?

1. No
2. Yes
3. No
4. Yes
5. No

I am waiting for a Model E. I'll likely sign up the day of announcement for a signature version.

1 - yes
2 - yes
3 - yes
4 - yes
5 - yes

Impatient to see the Model E.

Yes to all

yes, no, no, yes, yes


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