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Trade Wheels, Anyone?

I'm looking for a regular production model reservation holder who wants the 21" rims. I would like to work out a deal in which I trade them the 21" rims from our Signature and I get the 19" areos and $1,000 boot. That way each of us saves $1,000. Tesla will not do the switch for us, so there might be insurmountable logistical obstacles, but there it is... I will be taking delivery in the U.S., or maybe in Toronto. If anyone is interested please post to this thread.

Add me to the list. Looking for the same trade...

Here, too. I'm an hour out of NYC.

I'm in the Bay Area and am P1,837 who would be open to trade up for a 21" but would like to save some bread... :) Too bad the forums are not searchable for when that time comes but am putting it out there in any case.

I have a feeling most will want to 'trade down'...

Might be a used a little, as I'm Sig 303, and you might not have yours for some months. So there might be a little room for negotiations. Or it might not work.

Tesla, can you help by giving me someone else's aero wheels 4 months before they buy, and hold my 21" for them? Please?

I love the look on the 21" and I don't mind swapping out the tires more often for that look so am open to the idea for me. I do want to see what they 19" Aereo's look like first however, I don't like the ones I see now with the all black solid finish as they look like cheap rims to me. The rims make the car people, well, sometimes.

There's a number of us that want to trade down from 21" -> 19" and feel Tesla should credit for the down grade just like they charge for the upgrade.

Forcing people to go through forums to arrange wheel swaps at a reasonable price is just silly.

I agree. Maybe they want to book the sale at the higher price in the first quarter of sales? I have no idea why they said "no." Perhaps by aiding our swap they can book the sale and provide the features we want, while we take care of the difference ourselves?

1000*10,000=10,000,000

As a stock holder, I don't have a problem with this. As a reservation holder, I'll find a solution.

Hope you can work out a deal directly with TESLA. If not, I may be interested in Cleveland (I use seperate winter and summer tires). P1842 so timing might be the issue and would affect the price differential.

Harold if you live in Canada and plan to plate the vehicle in Canada you should check with the Registrar of Imported Vehicles. If Tesla doesn't get the Model S on the RIV list you won't be able to import the car. Presently Tesla does not have any entries on the RIV list and Tesla reps have told me they do not intend to get the Model S on the list. You can check the list here: http://www.tc.gc.ca/roadsafety/safevehicles/importation/usa/vafus/list2/...

For this reason I signed up to buy my Model S in Canada despite the fact I am currently living in the US.

Tesla will have the ability to import the vehicle into Canada as a manufacturer, but once the vehicle is sold to a consumer the list I linked to applies.

If you have a permanent address in the US and will be leaving a US plate on the car indefinitely then none of this will be a concern. However I have spent some time on the phone with the Ministry of Transportation in Ontario and they confirmed I cannot get an Ontario plate for a US vehicle without the proper import paperwork. After that the registrar of imported vehicles confirmed that at this time they will not import a Tesla (actually the conversation took place over a year ago when I made my reservation).

Maybe there are other provinces that are more lax. That might let you work around this, but you should investigate before you assume all will be fine. If you have other information I would love to hear it and avoid the HST in Ontario (even though it would put me at the end of the US reservation line). The MTO also told me the penalties for leaving a US plate on a car that is garaged in Canada, but I no longer remember the details.

Hmmm, maybe I should investigate the virtue of moving my point of purchase to another province with more favourable sales tax...

cablechewer.....The free trade agreement allows any new car manufactured in the USA or Mexico to be imported into Canada. Therefore I do not think that Tesla needs to get the model S on the RIV list.

I just called the Registrar to check that. They said the free trade agreement may exempt a US made vehicle from some duty and taxes, but if the vehicle isn't on the RIV list it is considered inadmissible.

It is up the the CBSA to verify admissibility and the validity of your Form-1. However the Registrar won't issue a Form 1 for a vehicle they consider inadmissible.

That being said there are exceptions for temporary visitors (up to 1 year), diplomats, CBP officers, military personnel and demonstration/test vehicles.

Tesla has said they will have the cars on the pre-clearance list so they can import them. However, whatever extra effort is needed to enable consumer import of the vehicles Tesla will not undertake (that came from two different Tesla reps in conversations through 2010).

TM has stated (on this website) that it will not support importing its vehicles into markets for which they were not designated.

I'd be willing to trade up to the 21" wheels. I'm #4684 and hopefully will be taking delivery around 12/12 in the Bay Area.

And just out of curiosity, do the 21's really wear that much faster than the 19's? Why are people interested in trading down?

- Why are people interested in trading down

Winter, poor roads, ride comfort, wheel damage, tire price, tire selection, range, etc.. There are a host of reasons.

I was quoted "up to 5%" less range with the performance wheels/tires, decreased mileage per tire, and higher cost to replace each tire.

And just out of curiosity, do the 21's really wear that much faster than the 19's? Why are people interested in trading down? (kevjo)

Here's a thread that provides lots of details and personal experience/views on performance tires:
http://www.teslamotors.com/forum/forums/performance-tires

Note that you can roughly determine the practicality and economy of a tire by it's aspect ratio*. The smaller the aspect ratio is the more expensive and short lived the tire will be.

* aspect ratio is the nominal section height divided by the nominal section width. Also called "profile" it's the second number in a tire size 245/35R21, the 35 is the aspect ratio.

I'm P1399, taking delivery in Newport Beach, CA and I'll make that trade. How do we arrange it?

I want to use the 19 inch tires for ride. I am not going to be racing the car and do not need the high performance 21 inch tires. Does anyone know what the acutal cost difference is in these two tire sets? I am reservation 296 for a SIG. I am in Seattle and would trade down for a set or 19 inch if I could get enough to pay for paint armour. The problem is timing, I don't want to wait for someone who will not get their car until later in the year.

The rep does not think Tesla will offer any kind of deal for those of us who have 21 inch tires as "standard" and want the cheaper 19 inch set.

Any suggestions will be welcome.

Given no help from Tesla, it would seem that someone would have to accept slightly used wheels from a Sig/Perf buyer.

If you are looking to trade down, i'm willing to take the 21" performance wheels off your hands. I am looking for the smoked black ones. I'm a regular reservation holder located in the Bay Area. Looking to take delivery at the end of the year. Reservation # 68. Contact me and tell me which wheels you would like and we can make a trade.

Reservation #4068

If you are looking to trade down, I'm willing to take the 21" performance wheels off your hands. I am looking for the smoked black ones. I'm a regular reservation holder located in the Chicago Area. Looking to take delivery at the end of the year. Reservation #4419. Contact me and tell me which wheels you would like and we can negotiate a trade.

Just configured my Sig (#802) and decided to take the 21" wheels even though I live in a pothole-ridden city on a cobblestone street and work for a company that doesn't believe in snow days. Just too cheap to let the $3500 slide. So I too will be looking to make this deal with someone at some point.

MandL, meet daniel. Daniel, meet MandL. My introduction commission is just 10% of the transaction value. |8-$

@HaroldS

If your are CAN sig the delivery might close to winter. you may order a set of 19" winter & save the new 21" to trade(people might pay a little more for a new set instead of used)

Since my original post which started this thread we spent a fair amount of time thinking about the details of trading.

First, since we REALLY can't use the 21"s in our climate we couldn't afford to end up owning them if a trading partner didn't come through.

Second, the geographic dispersion of many of us meant that there would probably be the cost and difficulty of shipping wheel sets around the country. We're taking delivery in Maine, for example.

Third, what are we going to drive on while the trade sets are in transit?

In the end, it just turned out that the logistics for trading seemed way too complicated. Since we were #273 in the Signature queue, so we had to configure our car some weeks ago. We opted for the aero wheels, but of course can't get them now, so we changed to 19" all weathers.

If anyone does manage to arrange a trade it would be good to hear about how it worked out.


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