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Tesla vs Honda head on collision

This doesn't look good. Not sure that it is a model S. anyone have an update?

LAGUNA BEACH, Calif. (KABC) -- Two people were killed and one person was injured in a head-on collision in Laguna Beach Tuesday.

Authorities say a Honda and a Tesla collided on Laguna Canyon Road at 6:43 a.m. Both fatal victims were in the Honda. The driver of the Tesla was rushed to a local hospital in unknown condition.

The cause of the accident has not yet been determined. Laguna Canyon Road was shut down between El Toro Road and State Route 73 due to the crash investigation.

DEVELOPING: We will add more details to this report as they become available.

The Tesla was revving?

I wonder if the Merc will ever be identified. Wonder if the MS rear-view picked it up (w. lic#).

You know what he meant. You can revv mentally too.

I am not sure I know what he meant and how he supposedly heard the Ses engine revv mentally. Sounds more like someone posting on a forum who did not realize the S was quiet, IMHO.

It seems that the MS wandered quite a bit as there is a 'no use' lane with double yellow lines separating the two opposing lanes. This stuff will always happen no matter what car. Humans make mistakes. Period.

@Brian H - Mercedes driver has been identified and interviewed by the police.

http://www.lagunabeachindependent.com/2013/04/08/investigators-to-revisi...

I used to drive Honda cars, had 3 of them. Well designed, fuel efficient cars, but I think structurally it is weak. I was rear ended by a full size car and my car was totaled. The other car barely got a fender bender. Have seen too many fatalities in these cars, especially when hit by a big auto.

It is a big tragedy and the clock can not be turned back. Just got to keep that in mind when driving. Autos can be deadly. Nothing wrong with being careful or even driving slow with traffic. Another temptation I avoid is using my cellphone while driving, even with Bluetooth, unless there is an emergency. Too distracting.

My prayers goes to the victims and their families.

Satellite images indicate the Mercedes did not force the Tesla into the Honda's lane. It appears as though the Tesla chose to continue to race the Mercedes and had time to change his mind. The curve in the road must have drifted him into the Honda.

http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/15404-Tesla-head-on-collis...

Bubba;
Yeah, for 6/7 of the population, navigating a conversation uses the same brain circuits as navigating traffic. Choose!

Might want to re-read that link JZ, you've gotten it a little off.

My heart goes out to the two victims, their families, and 7 young kids, as well as to the driver of the MS. As reported on TeslaMotorsClub and on many local newsfeeds, the Laguna Beach Police Employees Association set up a fund for the two families:

"Those in the community who wish to make a donation can mail a check made out to Alberto and Armando Memorial and sent to LBPEA, PO Box 4611, Laguna Beach, CA 92652."

Count me in.

@vawlkus - check out post #309 in that thread. I agree with that theory. Looks like Tesla driver drove illegally for 500 feet after the lanes merged into 1. Very sad.

note to self:

I shouldn't ever come back to this site if I am in an accident. (knock on dashboard)

Keep reading JZ, that theory got debunked by the skid marks.

I've read it all. The skid marks don't debunk the theory. The skidmarks are after after the Honda leading towards the Tesla's final resting spot North of the Honda. They only tell the story of what the Tesla did after impact. Nothing regarding why the Tesla was 2 lanes away from his legal lane.

Go re-read, the skid marks are from the Tesla, and they show he wasn't that far from his lane. They also show he was braking prior to impact and the other car wasn't. Raises a lotta questions in my mind, and spikes that 2 lane over guys theory in a dozen places.

Maybe the Honda drivers were texting and never saw the MS coming.

Between ABS and TC there shouldn't *be* any skid marks from the Tesla, right?

In theory jat. Like I said, there's a lot that's not adding up here.

I didn't see that the Tesla laid tracks before impact. I tend to agree with jat on this one. The tracks that veer right after impact are likely the rear of the car spinning around after the front end collided. Unless you are an accident specialist, I don't think any of us can read those tread marks and conclude the cause. It still seems very fishy that the Tesla was 2 lanes over when he hit the Honda and that this was 500 feet after he was supposed to have merged.

As far as I can see the impact was mostly in the no traffic lane, offset so each car got hit on its left front. It looks like the Honda was somewhat close to the no traffic lane upon impact, even as far as having the left wheels on the double yellow.

The Tesla was not two lanes over at point of impact, just one lane over.

Skid marks are probably a function of the front wheels locking due to impact. Certainly there is no way the left wheel could continue to rotate, and the right was probably blocked as well.

So two theories. One is that the Tesla was in the middle lane (where it should not have been), while the Honda was too close to that lane, or partially in it (where it should not have been either), due to driver distraction (cell phone and so on).

Second theory is that the Tesla went all the way to the Honda lane (two lanes away from where it belonged), and that the Honda driver tried to avoid impact by exiting through the middle lane at the same time the Tesla driver tried to return to that lane.

Obviously the first scenario is more favorable to the Tesla driver, while the second one is disastrous. My guess is that this is the more likely one, since you need an improbable coincidence (distracted Honda driver in just that spot) to explain the first.

There is a safety rule in these cases that says if you have a car coming opposite you in your lane, brake hard and always head to the right as much as you can, because the opposite driver is likely to do a last second attempt to return to his lane when he sees the probable impact.

I'm wondering if anyone has seen the police report.

Police are getting a warrant to examine Teslas black box. We should know facts in a few weeks.

http://www.lagunabeachindependent.com/2013/04/19/crash-inquiry-focuses-o...

Here are the pictures of the Tesla Model S that hit the 1992 Honda Accord. I have got to give it to you guys for building great cars. No comment on the circumstances of the accident.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10200767205198749&l=5ab8710f81

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10200767207038795&l=05a84de28e

I had no idea cars had a black box that could be used by the police, and lawyers, to determine what a driver was doing. Seems like we need to increase the size of our umbrella policies....

Thanks for the better res pics of the MS.
Wow... that is some strong car. The doors are not even slightly wrinkled. My structural training tells me this the one to have if accident saftey is your top priority. Volvo move over!
However, my heart goes out for the relatives of the Honda, very sad indeed.

@gzebra1
sorry but I think that are images of different crashed car...
just look at the shape of the deformed hood, look at A left pillar, look at the 19/21" wheels, look at the left dent/deformation of the front... I can't believe it is the same car...

http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/15404-Tesla-head-on-collis...

and the color also look different (blue/black), but that can be just by lighting of the sceene... and on have pano roof and second... well, I am not sure...

leather is a different color too, this isn't the car from the crash.

the posts on facebook is from a guy living in North Carolina, so probably not the same car. the hood damage certainly looked different.


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