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Will Model S ever offer Blindspot Detection, Parking Sensors?

Sorry everyone, I could not find a 'search' button on this forum, so if this is an old topic, I apologize.

I really want to buy a Model S, but I feel that for $95K, it should come with Blindspot Detection and Parking Sensors. My wifes' $40K Mazda CX-9 has these features and she and I both have become use to them. My current BMW has them as well.

My parking garage at work is very tight and poorly laid out (it's actually 2 blocks from the Tesla DC sales office) and the parking sensors have saved the bumper on my BMW more than a few times. I really don't want to get a new car without them, AND NO I do not want some monkey shop drilling holes in my new $95K car to add some Chinese made after-market system.

So, is Elon planning on offering these two very nice features to the Model S anytime soon?

Thanks and flame suit on.

Try volkerize.com for search. Parking sensors are available in Europe, blind spot detection seems to be supported by software, but not available yet afaik.

Parking sensors are an option if you get the Tech Package, I ordered them on mine.

@Thimo - Where do you see the parking sensor option? I checked the Options & Pricing page as well as the Design Studio, and I don't see any mention parking sensors in either place.

I think Thimo is from Europe. This option for European customers only

If you adjust your mirrors properly, there is no blind spot.

http://www.wikihow.com/Set-Rear%E2%80%90View-Mirrors-to-Eliminate-Blind-...

http://www.caranddriver.com/features/how-to-adjust-your-mirrors-to-avoid...

Parking sensors, however, would be helpful.

Even with mirrors turned out, there is still a blind spot. The problem is worse if you are merging at an angle, like when you are getting on the highway. The blind spot monitors in my Jeep have been awesome and I will miss them a lot in my P85+. Tesla needs to make them standard.

The answer is a very definitive maybe.

There is every indication that they will eventually add these options. When? That's the question. It's very encouraging though that they are offering them on the European models.

It is we, the early adopters of this fabulous technological view of tomorrow who have enabled the Tesla dream to become a reality. The options so far discussed in this forum (in the best of all possible worlds!) should have been up and running before our vehicles were delivered. We all understand why this is the case, but never-the-less many of these options will probably not be available for retrofit to the 2012 models! Knowing what I know now, 3,000 miles and 6 months into driving the most exciting car I ever expect to own, would I change my mind and wait until all the bugs, and missing features, were ironed out before I first sat in the seat of my new Tesla? Absolutely not! However, I need to continually remind myself that this is the cutting edge of cutting edge technology. We are the pioneers and we should expect some of our wagons to get stuck in unforseen muck. I have made my decision and laid down my money. 6 months in, I still get excited every time I drive my MS out of my garage, not to mention every time I yield to the temptation to pushing the accelerator to the floor and feel the thrill of being pressed back in my seat as my MS surges onto the freeway. In all my 72 years on this planet, this is, by far, the finest toy I have ever owned! Thanks, Tesla, for the gift of exhilaration!

oakport;
As data accumulates, I believe it will be found that the MS is therapeutic and live-extending to drive.

life-extending

I wish more folks shared Oakport's sentiment. Tesla doesn't "owe" us these features. If they retrofit them, I'll be thrilled; if they don't I'll live. I knew what I was buying, and every over-the-air update is practically magic.

@riceguy, I agree.

I'm freakin delighted the company actually delivered. The odds were really against them. When I put down my deposit three and a half years before the car arrived, I believed it was a long shot.

Really long.

Any enhancements or new upgrades we get after deliver is simply a gift. If some of those can be purchased for post-delivery installation, then we still win.

@rdalcanto "Even with mirrors turned out, there is still a blind spot"
If you read the posted links you should see that is incorrect and is easily demonstrated in any standard car. There are no spots in the MS where a car in the adjacent lanes cannot be seen in the mirrors.

I agree that there definitely is a greater chance of a collision when lanes are merging at a large angle though. A similar problem exists when 2 cars on a multi-lane road start to change lanes into the same area of the middle lane separating them. This is not due to a "blind spot", it is due to the cars moving toward each other. Because of the angled approach, the cars are not in adjacent lanes until immediately before the merge. Before a collision, the car would be visible in a properly positioned standard mirror but only as the cars get very close. Unfortunately, the electronic blind-spot sensors don't work as well in this situation for the same reason. They give a warning, but only at the last second when the 2 cars are already moving towards each other.

A far better solution is simply adding a convex mirror. It covers the angle problem, is more reliable, less expensive, provides far more information than the blind-spot sensors and doesn't rely on the driver using the turn-signal. It also prevents the driver from unknowingly changing lanes in front of a fast approaching car that isn't in its "blind-spot" when the lane change is initiated. The detectors don't indicate faster cars approaching from behind with the same range as a mirror.
The most important benefit of a properly positioned mirror is that you can develop a constant awareness of the vehicles around you. If you have to make a sudden emergency maneuver to avoid a collision, a blind-spot detector is useless - it will merely blink/vibrate/or beep a split second before you hit the car in the adjacent lane or may not activate at all since you didn't have time to turn on your signal. (Or if it is a passive indicator, you will have long learned to ignore it since it constantly blinks) If you pay attention to your mirrors, you always have an awareness of the cars around you and may be able to avoid the accident by taking a different course.

Relying on blind-spot detectors is a mistake. Drivers become less aware of their surroundings.

Either way, the driver still has to use the signal and react to the sensor or image in the mirror. The best solution is to take the human out of the equation. Google autopilot FTW ;)

+1 to what many have said. I love the car as is, know how to check my blind spot (been doing it successfully for many years, park my car (parallel or otherwise), back up without hitting anything (learned this in driver's education).

Thanks TS for the link to the article:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/07/elon-musk-google-autopilot/

I'll have my $5,000 standing by for when Tesla adds these features. In the meantime, my M5 will just have to do ;-)

I'm looking forward to a petrol-free and high-torque future!

@paul_villasenor, @ ylyubarsky correct, I'm from Europe, the Netherlands. Didn't realize this was a EU-only option.

Agree with others who say TM doesn't owe it to us. I love my car as is and am thrilled they were able to actually make the MS as is. I would be happy if they offered retrofits - that would be great. That said, the car is incredible already.

FYI - here is the Press Release for European Options - Supposedly all these will be available in US cars as well in the next 3 or 4 months.

In advance of the first European Model S deliveries, we are excited to announce the release of some new vehicle option packages designed to optimize multiple aspects of the ownership experience and vehicle performance. Below are details of each newly available option, any of which can be easily added a-la-carte to your existing booking, if not already included:

Cold Weather Package: Stay warmer as the weather gets colder with new heated second-row seats, heater windshield wiper nozzles & cowl, improved defrost grill, and an upgraded battery coolant heater to improve vehicle performance and range in cold climates.

Park Assist: New front and rear-mounted bumper sensors measure the distance between Model S and other objects, making navigating tight spaces much easier and more comfortable. Audible and visual feedback will be communicated clearly on the instrument panel.

Lighting Package (included standard on Signature Series): In order to improve both utility and ambience in your car, this package is designed to improve your visibility in and around the vehicle, and includes additional lighting in the footwells, door jams, door panels, and storage areas.

Security Package: In addition to the standard security features, overhead intrusion sensors and battery-backed alarm sirens are now available.
Performance Plus: This re-tuned suspension adds a very comfortable, yet firm ride that helps to transform Model S into a true driver’s car. Delay between driver input and steering response is reduced through optimized dampers and bushings, helping you to unleash the maximum potential of Model S Performance.

At this point in time, the new options are not yet available for selection in the online configurator, so our Product Specialists are standing by to answer all your questions about product details and pricing and/or update your configuration and paperwork if you’d like to upgrade your vehicle with the new selections. In order to add any new options to your configuration without delaying your vehicle’s production timing, all updates must be submitted no later than Monday, April 15, so please reach out to our Product Specialist team as soon as possible to specify your preferences.

I drive with the rear-view camera on the top half of the display at all times. It's very wide angle and vehicles are easily seen when they are not visible in the mirrors. I still turn my head when changing lanes, but this works for me.

I'd like park distance control, especially for the front end, which is very low and easily damaged on curbs if you're not careful. I back into parking spots more often that with previous cars, again to utilize the rear-view camera to gauge the distance.

I cancelled my order until the Cold Weather package is available, love the car and will get one but that takes care of my only fear about the car in Chicago winters.

@Got Amped - What pbendo is saying is that if you adjusted your mirrors properly you wouldn't have to turn your head to check your blind spot. ;-)

Cheers!

Any way to tell if those european options will be available as a retrofit to existing cars...

For a price, I believe most of these options will be availble within 3-6 months. I don't know how you retrofit rear seat heating without removing/replacing the seats, which would be outrageously expensive. I do think Park Assist is probably the most realistic (and highly demanded) retrofit. Despite what some believe/want on other threads, I think current owners will have to pay a good amount of moeny for retrofits - there's just no way Tesla can give them away.

I would be interested in the enhance battery heating, living in Canada, not necessarily the whole package...

elguapo, I added rear seat heaters to a car a few years ago. As a lay person without the correct tools it took me a weekend. A trained tech could remove the seats in less than ten minutes, I'm sure. Removing the seat covers may take an hour. Adding the pads 30 minutes, refitting the covers maybe 90 minutes, refit the seats in 10 minutes. If the seats have controls in the back they just need a 12V line running to them, if they are integrated in some way they may need to connect to a harness, although if planned as an option the harness may be there already (that was the case in my car).

@Flaninacupboard That would be great. I think everyone's hope is they offer all of these upgrades/options as retrofits in the very near future. As a lay person myself, I had no idea the seats could be removed so easily.

Good information. I really doubt that the hardware additions will be covered by the service contract....just hoping. As a car owner, it would be great. As a stock holder..well...we should have to pay

As a stock holder, you hope management gets it right about the value of the additional appeal and the sales and loyalty enhancement it generates. And the potential "precedent" expectations it creates, with their associated costs.

Do you feel lucky? Maybe you should!


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