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When will we see new interior?

I have heard through a combination of rumors that they are re-designing the interior. Possibly w center console, possibly a re-do of the arm rests/cup-holders that no one seemed too enthused about (I heard those were MB scrap bin parts.) Anyone seen or heard anything? I notice that Tesla has gradually removed most if not all the interior photos from their website.

Don't have your hopes set on a center console.

Official answer from Tesla is "first quarter". That could be all the way up 'til 31 March.

Tesla is having a coming out party on February 9th, both for the Model X and for their Los Angeles "Tesla Design Studio". We're hoping they'll also publish their Model S design studio no later than Feb 9. The new online design studio should give us 360deg views of the new, final interior.

I don't see any reason to believe that the opening of the LA Design Studio will have any correlation with updating the on-line Design Studio. They share a name, but little else.

As I understand it, they cannot change anything about the interior after the final NHTSA safety tests, and we know that those are still on-going, but that they are going on. So, if Tesla manages to finally score across-the-boards 5-stars, then that will lock the interior design for at least this (2013) model year. So...by inference, Tesla must have an interior design now that is effectively final. Would be nice if they shared that.

I don't think they are done with the interior just yet. Since reservation holders appear split on the console/no console issue, I wonder if Tesla will compromise by having a removable console, so that everyone will be happy? Whatever they do, they need to have two cupholders though. The Prototype only had one cupholder.

IMO, the problem with the Beta dashboard was that the infotainment screen didn't appear to be properly integrated into the dashboard. It just seemed to be hanging off the dash and not anchored. I don't think it was directly related to the console, but since the screen is so big, it was begging to be framed out. Also having a console, would probably de-emphasize the massiveness of the screen.

Now that I've been following the company for nearly two years, my experience tells me that Tesla will "get it right" in the end, and most of the customers will be happy. A prime example is the front grille. That design appeared to go through a few iterations, and in the end, it's awesome! They've been doing that consistently. I guess I'm saying that I trust that they've been listening to our comments, and will "hit it out of the park" once again.

Incidentally, I also believe that the Model X will be awesome too, because Elon says it will, and I believe him.

Hi David,

I know you have strong feels about the lack of a console and framing of the infotainment screen, and I share your observations regarding aesthetics. However, it may be wise to lower your expectations regarding a significant change in the interior that adding a console would entail. Remember the Betas that we saw at Fremont were 90% production intent prototypes. I guess we can hope that that remaining 10% could embrace a console, but I wouldn't get our hopes up too much. I sincerely hope that this issue isn't a deal-killer for you.

Larry

Can anybody tell me where the 2 USB ports are in the front?

Change is coming!!

Tesla hasn't said yet.

Yeah 2 cup holders is a deal breaker, jk, sorry

I really cannot believe that a distraction like cup holders could be a deal breaker! My B class Merc has these and they are dust and junk collectors! very rarely i might fit a soft drink bottle in there if it has been a really hot day. Of a little more use is the moulded in wine bottle holders in the door pockets, useful to stop these rolling around when going to a BYO restaurant. even then, they not used much.
i would far prefer that the space occupied by drink holders be utilised for something useful, like sunglasses (for the passenger) spare reading glasses, or accessories such as combs or even electric shavers. I am sure the ladies could also find a myriad of better storage uses also!

Peak, is that too many or too few cupholders?

Just for the record, in the Beta interior there were cup holders inside the center arm rests. Each armrest slid back independently, and the cup holder was underneath.

I really miss having decent cup holders in the Roadster. There's only one and it's pretty much useless if you have a passenger with you.

@David M. : Comments on the forums were NOT split evenly between those who wanted a center console and those who didn't. I didn't keep an exact tally, but I did follow the issue closely. My best guess is that the split in favor of a redesign that included a center console was at least 60 - 40 and was probably 70 - 30.

I agree with @Robert.Boston that the interior design is now complete. We'll see whether Tesla listened. If they didn't, I'm quite certain it will cost them sales with the second wave of buyers (folks who aren't EV enthusiasts and are just looking for a cool luxury Sedan). We'll see.

Larry - From here on out, there are no deal breakers. IMO, making the front grille awesome was much more important than the dashboard or console. Tesla intended to tweak the dashboard and / or console in the aftermath of the Oct. 1 event. I'm sure whatever they did is better than what we saw in the beta. We'll find out soon enough.

I agree that I think the majority of folks, myself included, would like to see the center console area re-designed. The design of the beta looked, well, incomplete. Those black plastic pieces running on the floor looked like Tesla might have had something designed to go there but it either didn't work or wasn't ready for prime time. I'm not a pack rat, but I do have a cup of coffee of the way to work (current cup holders don't allow for use of cupholder while driving which makes them pointless), and I do use sunglasses and keep my headphones for the gym in the car. Don't really want to leave those just thrown on the dash. Have to agree that for most of us early enthusiasts it would be disappointing but not deal breaker, but the next wave of customers, AKA the other 99.9% of car buyers, won't be as forgiving.

Hopefully they got a chance to improve the interior for 1.0. However, I was told that once they submit cars for NHTSA crash testing, they can't move anything near the airbags even 1 millimeter. The configuration is frozen. He also said there was a code freeze on the control panels during testing, too. This is from one of the TSLA regional sales managers.

Why not assume it will be similar to the Beta vehicles, so one is not disappointed later on?

If they already designed in some changes, then we're in luck. If not, there's no time for changes now.

Let's hope they managed to slip in a console and anchor the screen with it.

We'll find out when they light up the design studio online.

Perhaps the Donut Analogy has merit. Many are so focused on the hole (cupholders, center console, dash, options, pricing) they don't see the Donut. Look at what TM has created: a car company, a new factory, ‘out of the box’ technology, 2 revolutionary new automobiles, a new way to market cars … and a forum to keep us all highly excited and entertained while awaiting our “S.”

There will always be room for improvement. That is what 2013, 2014… is all about. I bet if you evaluate your current car it has a few areas you are not thrilled with, and these makers have been doing this for 60-100 years!

Good luck Mr. Musk. 2/7-2/15 is a big week for you and your teams.

There's little doubt that TM is already considering enhancements for future Model S versions, but frankly, that is not an excuse for offering version 1.0 to the marketplace with a less that adequate interior. Those of us who are spending between $50 and $100K have a reasonable expectation of a solidly designed, well integrated, flowing interior that has the look and feel of a luxury car.

I, for one, will be very disappointed if the final interior is nothing more than a small tweak of the beta. I'll buy my sig because other design elements trump a failed interior, but I'll then go directly to a custom auto shop and see what I can do to make it right for my taste. If I'm going to spend $95K for a car, another 5 percent to get the interior the Model S deserves might be worth it. For me, an integrated center console and a better choice of leather (e.g., saddle color) are worth considering. However, I shouldn't have to take matters into my own hands, and it will irk me to do so.

One final thought -- reviewers for automotive media will begin evaluating the final production Model S soon. I suspect that at least a few of them will be looking for things to criticize. Why on earth would TM tee-up a target for negative comments with an interior that doesn't meet reviewer expectation for a car at the Model S price point?

sofl - if the interior is not changed and if you decide to do some aftermarket changes, let me know. maybe we can get a multi-car discount :-)

seriously, the issue of usable cupholders and driver storage is not trivial - it is fundamental to the ergonomics of driving a car. I and others have conveyed this on a number of occasions to Tesla, whether through reservation personnel or on this forum. So one would like to have hope that they listened, at least a little, to these concerns.

Soflauthor. Despite what I said about the Donut, I feel much the same. I want saddle interior and that is why I am ordering cloth interior. If TM won't give me saddle I will pay a local shop the $1500-2,500. The bottom line, the “S”, though not perfect, is too good not to buy. Many of us have modified our cars (interior and exterior), motorcycles, planes, stereos, home theaters -to our taste. I have seen guys put $15-20K into stereos for their Porsches – with all the engine noise you couldn’t appreciate their ‘investment.’

Six months ago in a forum, I suggested TM establish a custom shop in Fremont to modify customers cars ( custom color leather and paint, center console, more memory…whatever the customer is willing to pay for). It would be very profitable. However, TM can only do so much with the timetable at hand.

You bring up an interesting point regarding the Auto Press. I have a particularly low opinion of the Fourth Estate (de-press) and I am sure they will find fault with the “S.” Top Gear was only the first salvo. TM will not be a much of an advertiser, the magazines are supported by “Big ICE.” They seem to love BMW, MB, Audi, Porsche - no matter what.

"I have seen guys put $15-20K into stereos for their Porsches – with all the engine noise you couldn’t appreciate their ‘investment.’"
They needed the best they could get to penetrate said engine noise ...

Never underestimate Japanese adaptive digital technology.
Or its bad taste!

;)

@Brian, LOL, that's like those carnival game where you try to get your horse across the finish line by shooting a water canon at a target. It would be both fun and more sanitary as it gives everyone a reason to aim. Not to mention if you are a bad shot at the bar, maybe you would think twice before driving home. "Oh craps, I didn't hit the target at all... TAXI!"

Totally agree on the inadequate beta interior. I have showed the car to many BMW buyers. First reaction is salivation at the execution of the exterior. Second reaction is that the ill conceived console is a show stopper. Sign me up for some group buys in case the bet interior is it. I want a console, graceful integration of the display and would appreciate saddle leather.

Apology for grammar...

Since so many of us would like a console and the model S might not have one, maybe there is an opportunity for a third-party console that can nicely set in the vacant place below the info screen.

I may feel differently when I actually see the thing in person, but I actually like the interior minus the console. I really think that I will enjoy the feeling of openness. I have a HUGE console thing in the Suburban and, frankly, it's just an excuse to collect crap.

I agree that some small amount of storage it nice for things like sunglasses and parking garage cards but, other than that, it's all pretty superfluous. Oh, and I need a couple of cup holders.

I DO hope that someone makes a 3rd party solution for those who want a large receptacle for "necessities."

I thought I was the only one that wanted saddle leather seats. There are lots of us. Tesla, saddle leather please.

+1 to saddle leather and a nice console

I was defaulting to tan because I really didn't want white leather, didn't really want black leather either. But saddle leather sounds like a winner to me!

I will get the 'fast' S or SIG here in the UK (Order no. 13) , but only if the Control Panel looks better integrated (alpha version) as opposed to what I have seen recently.

I like the back 'bench'.


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